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ETK 800 New electric awd balance

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Passat Alltrack, Jun 5, 2021.

  1. Passat Alltrack

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    I have had slight annoyance over the new electrically controlled awd ever since it was added to the etk 80. I don't like the balance and the understeer, before it would be much easier and more predictable to drift now it does not wanna shoot out the ass without a flick. The K-series seems to be more balanced but that might just be the weight balance making up for it. It would probably help if there could be a controller that reduced the lockup towards the front if the car understeers.
     
  2. Sithhy™

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    Doesn't this depend on the ESC/TC mode you're in that very moment?
     
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  3. Passat Alltrack

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    Well I usually turn off the ESC when I want to drift because with AWD you need a lot of power to drift on asphalt and with it on it just doesn't allow you to spin the tires so you can't drift. However when it's of it actually allows me to spin the wheels. when I floor it, it just locks the center diff very hard and starts understeering.
     
  4. SKB

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    Esc in the etks do have a specific drift mode too


    Which Chuck's all the power to the rear wheels
     
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  5. Diamondback

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    Yep, while planned, AWD control based on under-/oversteer isn't currently implemented. The system is made to support it, but it's not there atm. :)
     
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  6. Passat Alltrack

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    Yes, and this is awesome, but i want to do awd skids like i used to be able to do before.
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    Nice, looking forward to the next update like always. :)
     
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  7. Xupaun

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    Well, I believe that you'll have to do the old fashion way, playing with the ARBs, tire pressure and types and suspension geometry.
     
  8. Passat Alltrack

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    Nice, looking forward to the next update like always. :)
    Yes, putting a welded diff on the rear, LSD in the front, some skinny tires stiff race arb in the rear, and soft in the front makes for some nice AWD skids with the AWD as it is now, but the balance for racing with wider tires in the rear and good suspension still makes it an understeer biased car when on a racing setup. And sliding with some nice-looking tires as well would be awesome. Hoping for a great handling car later on. and maybe a safe AWD config that understeers slightly in comfort, and slightly more tail-happy in sport, and maybe a pretty fixed 40/60 or 30/70 with ESC off and the drift mode with RWD of course.
     
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  9. Xupaun

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    Well, I'm using the ETK Kc4, with proper suspension tuning, Torque Vectoring front and rear diffs, 19x10 CJD's racing slick tires, it is still slightly understeers on fast corners, but some scandinavian flicks make its rear end slide beautifully. I don't know if you use the I6, if you do, try the I4, since it almost makes the car become mid engine, and may help to remove some weight from the front axle.
     
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