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Some Police configs aren't accurate

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by shinchanf1, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. shinchanf1

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    This police config is accurate
    screenshot_2023-01-17_17-32-06.png
    This police config is not accurate
    screenshot_2023-01-17_17-44-13.png

    Want to know why?
    I've searched online about whether police departments use foreign vehicles or not, the answer is: very rarely.
    Wondered why almost all the patrol vehicles you see on the road are fords? this is because of an unwritten rule most governments follow. They mostly buy police vehicles locally and only buy a few international cars. This is why American police vehicles are fords, german police use BMWs, and Japanese police use Subarus. This is done to support the local economy. United States police do use BMW motorcycles, but we're definitely not seeing those in-game anytime soon :p
    Some police cars in BeamNG don't abide by this unwritten rule, here's a list of them.



    Starting with the American police configs.
    firwood police use mostly ibishus. The only American vehicle they have is an old one. This might be due to these being special pursuit vehicles, but I'm not sure.
    screenshot_2023-01-17_18-00-57.png
    Utah sheriff's office and department of parks and recreation use ibishu hoppers
    screenshot_2023-01-17_18-16-29.png screenshot_2023-01-17_18-29-36.png

    Onto the more international configs
    the gendarmerie, a french police force, uses Hirochi sunbursts, which are Japanese vehicles.
    screenshot_2023-01-17_18-07-32.png
    Carabinieri uses ibishu hoppers
    screenshot_2023-01-17_18-10-49.png

    Possible Improvements
    Pittsburgh police(the IRL counterpart for FPD) uses ford explorers and Tauruses. A gavril roamer firwood police config would work, but I don't see any replacement for the Taurus.
    Though Utah itself doesn't have a sheriff's office IRL, most of the counties' sheriff's offices use chevy Tahoes and ford F150s. a sheriff config for the D-series would work.
    Most park rangers use ford explorers and pickup trucks. A park ranger config and livery for the roamer would be a good replacement.
    Gendarmerie uses hatchbacks and vans most of the time, I Can't find anything similar that is a french car:(
    Carabinieri has gotten the lotus Evora S as a police vehicle. would easily best fit on the scintilla. Can't find any fitting Italian BeamNG car for the old carabinieri vehicles though.



    configs could certainly be more accurate.

    (a few sources)
    Detailed Quora Answer
    Wikipedia page
     
  2. al36

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    So, If I understand, the police all the time use car from her country.

    So these car are french ?


    I only give gendarmerie's car, but I think in other police it's the same.
     
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  3. shinchanf1

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    Looks like the gendarmerie uses every brand of police car. Volkswagen golf, Subaru Wrx, Cupra, Ford explorer, etc.
    I guess gendarmerie's fine then :)
     
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  4. BrynCoops

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    As someone who lives in the UK, I can safely say that this is completely untrue.
    Name one manufacturer that is still British, then try and guess how many of our current police cars are British.
    It's zero, there are none and we have none. All our brands are gone - but we still need police cars.

    I don't quite see what the purpose of the thread is. I was hoping it would be about missing details or something, but no.
    Yes, typically a government funded service will try to use cars from their own country (probably something about national pride, or helping local business, or maybe it's cheaper?) and with older cars that is fairly true - these days though police cars are much more specialist vehicles, something that not all brands offer, and it would make sense to buy a police car that already exists from a foreign country than to make a new one with a brand that is from your particular country.

    America however, they seem to have their police cars sorted, as far as I can tell all of their current service vehicles are American made Fords, but that's probably because the government has Ford on contract for that specific purpose.

    Edit:
    I think unless a particular country has a particularly strong (or influential?) automotive industry then any existing police car is fair game if the funding is there.

    And simply, BeamNG hasn't got enough cars to suit every countries police forces while still having some variety.
     
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  5. shinchanf1

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    This may be untrue in the UK, but it's true in most countries. Every country with a car industry only/mostly uses police cars produced in that country. american government uses Ford, Polis uses Volvos, Polizei uses BMWs, etc. This has been explained in detail in the quora answer I linked. UK police do not exist in the game currently.
     
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  6. BrynCoops

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    Key word being, most.

    My point is, BeamNG has a number of police cars ready to go, most of them are going to end up with American liveries because most of the maps are set in America - we have one Jeep, the Hopper, so that gets thrown around a lot, and the Sunburst is the only fast 4-Door sedan we have post-2000 (besides the Bastion).

    If we had an American Jeep, a modern compact American Sedan, and all that then I would be saying the same thing as you - but we don't. So, for the sake of gameplay and variety some cars are being used for countries that typically wouldn't.
     
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  7. CaptainZoll

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    You are aware that some Japanese manufacturers have factories in the USA, right?
     
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  8. shinchanf1

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    Crown vics were originally produced in Canada. If it's an American brand, the government will buy it.
     
  9. herb714

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    It makes no sense for a police department in a small town in Maine to use the Sunburst. Sunburst should be changed to be a Belasco police car, because it's a big city like New York, which uses Priuses and Camries. Also, Firwood's liveries should be changed. Why are the police cars used in a small town in Maine based on the police cars of the second largest city in Pennsylvania?

    It does make sense for American police departments to use the Hopper in my opinion, because it's based on a Jeep, and Jeeps are used by American police departments. Also, that Quora answer you linked has a picture of a Carabinieri Land Rover, and mentions that the Italian police use Land Rovers. Land Rovers and Jeeps are kind of similar, so I think it makes sense for the Italians to use Hoppers.
     
  10. NismoR35

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    Quoting this from Bryn, this seriously, while some cars being used for whichever respective departments is questionable, but certain cities in the US have used non American brands in the past, so it wasn't entirely far-fetched as it seems, and I'm not talking about NYC using Nissans and Toyotas, Case in point:





     
  11. Jackets64

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    @shinchanf1 what’s causing the inaccuracy is lack of proper choices for vehicles. BeamNG simply doesn’t have all the realistic vehicle choices. Also, I’d like to say that your Sunburst example isn’t completely inaccurate, multiple areas in the US use similar vehicles, especially in big cities where everyone is going crazy about the environment. In mean the NYPD uses Priuses for inner city stuff. Also I think the reason for police departments in the US using vehicles engineered and produced here is easy availability and cheap prices for parts. It just makes sense to buy the car that will be the cheapest to run, as they have to repair them and service them quite a lot.
     
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  12. fivedollarlamp

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    These are almost always the exception and not the rule
     
  13. MrAnnoyingDude

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    No, the Buy American Act only stipulates that the goods must be manufactured in the USA or an exempt country (e.g. Canada), not American-branded.

    Also, waivers can be granted for the public interest, or if the cost of U.S. products is unreasonable compared to equivalent foreign products.
     
  14. bussin.buses

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    Exactly
     
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