Update Speculation thread

Between the trailers being referred to as "US semi trailers" in the forum thread/release video, that note in the dev blog, and the T-Series being renamed to "US-Semi" in the files it seems we're getting a non-US truck. The team has been knocking out some of the most requested vehicles (LD Charger counterpart, old American minivan, and a super car) and one of the top requests is a Euro semi. We could get an Asian one though, but a Euro semi would make sense on Italy and ETK test center.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if we got a Euro semi and then got an Asian medium-duty truck to fill the "Class 5/6" role - that medium-duty truck could also be sold in the US, like the Isuzu NRR is.

 

What if it was Italy-sized and had both of these?

Great now I got my hopes up... I hope this comes true(at least the map part).

 

If we did get a Japan map, it would be nice to be able to no-hesi through a tight, long highway loop

 

Does anyone know if a RHD JDM Gen 1 Pessima would make sense lore wise? Judging by the (as far as I'm aware) total lack of one as a mod seems to me to signal it wouldn't exist. It doesn't even have KLJP content so..

 

heres "better" photos
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an RHD cherrier would be nice

 

It'd absolutely make sense for a JDM Mk1 Pessima to exist - it's perfectly within the max car dimensions and displacements for a normal car of 1988 Japan.

A JDM Mk2 Pessima might also be likely, but I'm not quite as sure of that.

 

That, and the possibility of micro/city cars, Japanese trucks, and kei cars being added to the game, as well as a 1991-1996 Pessima.

 

All this talking about a Japan map makes me want to try sushi...

(Fun fact: "Suhsimi" is the raw sushi, and "Sushi" is the cooked sushi.)

 

I do not recognize it either but I would assume that if you were to search for

Winter

Snow

Snowy

in the forum/repo that changes are good that you could find it there.


Update Speculation:

I have been thinking about and noticing some things that could indeed hint at another truck in addition to the T-Series:

• As other have mentioned before, us_semi.zip is awfully specific. Why go the extra mile - pun intended - when you dont plan on adding ?_semi.zip somewhere in the future?
  
  
• The Pneumatic System is quite complex and well developed. It would be downright shameful to only use such an impressive system on a single vehicle.
  
  
• The T-Series Build Years end surprisingly early. Why not make it run for much longer when similar - if modernized - vehicles have been driving arround and drive arround today? There is little reason for it not to run until at least the early 2000s in a similar if slightly modernized configuration. See the D-Series that besides being a pretty old vehicle gaining ABS, ESC and better engine accessories in later years. Little reason not to give the T-series the same treatment.... unless you already know that there is another vehicle in the works that can fill the role that a more modern T-series would serve.
  
  
• By keeping the T-Series pretty old, you can also neatly fit into it having a cabover variant which due to changed regulations has all but mostly fallen out of favour in modern america. You can also handwave all the pesky questions about its lack of engine options and the generous amount of diesel soot it produces by pointing at its age. Its an old fat diesel that doesnt even have anything inbetween its turbocharger and exhaust muffler. Of course it smokes a lot under load. With that we make players happy who always dreamed about going on the road in such an old trusty workhorse. It however doesnt quite fit into the modern Belasco of 2023. Diesel exhaust has become quite unpopular in more densely populated regions nowadays and you likely wouldnt be allowed in with such an unfiltered dirty engine.
  
  
• Developers in recent times focused on theme based updates. We got several offroad focused updates so following that scheme it would not be out of character for the developers to throw a second trucking/commercial vehicle/construction vehicle update right behind the first one.
  
  
• While racing based updates have been hinted at, tire thermal and tire wear have clearly proven significant challenges so they are unlikely to appear anytime soon. Beyond those tire related issues, racing is already quite realistic in BeamNG and certainly does not stand in the way of an integration into career mode which is making most impressive progress.
  
  
• Meanwhile, parts of the "Labourer" branch of Career mode are still in need of substantial development. Development that would go hand in hand with more commercial vehicle related content. Bus Mode has only received minimal improvements over the years (for example that bus stops now take the length of the bus into account (only when started from freeroam), yet busses are closely related technically with trucks in both real life and in the game. Thinking about it, it seems quite likely that the Pneumatic System will be in the future used on the Wentward Bus as both kneeling and opening doors on it already uses an suspiciously pneumatic sounding sound.
  Further Labourer branch content was strongly hinted at and as such can be considered to be at least on the developers to do list. Having a modern truck would make modernizing or even adding a modern bus much easier as most of the systems are already there.
  
  In fact I could see the developers maybe following a similar logic for the busses. An old smoking trusty workhouse bus for the Americans.... and a more modern cleaner one for Europe/Asia.
  
  So we could get the T-Series and the Wentward with the Belasco Diesel Engine for playing "The Old Times" and a much more modern EU/Asia Truck with a bus variant based upon its more modern engineering.
  
  
• But something that imho hints even stronger at an upcoming modern truck is one interesting little fact that is easily overlooked: ALL the heavy trailers in the game now have the option to equip Anti-Lock-Brakes. Which doesnt make much sense, because the only tractor we have in the game - the T-Series - cannot be equipped with ABS.
  Or to be more precise, it cannot be equipped with ABS since 0.31. That is correct, before the remaster, the T-Series did have ABS.
  So let me get this straight: The developers removed ABS from the T-Series when they remastered it, because it is to old for it. But at the same time, they added ABS to trailers that - correct me if I am wrong - did not have ABS before.
  
  That doesnt make any sense. Why would you add ABS to trailers when there is no tractor available anymore that can also use it? And it cant be the air brake system, because the heavy trailers all use the new air brake system so clearly ABS with air brakes works in the game and a such does not explain why the T-Series did not also get it.
  
  Of course this is speculation. But it is quite easy to make the conclusion that developers did what they did because they KNEW that there would a a modern tractor with ABS. Such a tractor would obviously benefit from having trailers with ABS, too. Otherwise there is very little reason why devs should add ABS to trailers while removing it from the tractor. This would also neatly explain why they made the T-Series older in the update.

What do you think?


EDIT:

Afterthought: What if we could get even 3 trucks?

- OId smoky american muscle workhorse - Check

- Modern European Heavy Duty Cabover with all the Bells and Whistles

- A smaller more agile Japanese Truck for the dense cities of Asia. Maybe even a Kei Car variant?

 

I agree with pretty much all your points, I would love to see a Hino/Nissan medium duty box truck or something. Also, good point about the ABS. It could simply be an oversight, but there are a few odd outstanding things in this update that could point to more similar content.

 

Wentward has entered the Chat
I wouldn't be surprised if the bus is one of the next couple reworked vehicles, probably not the next since there are vehicles looking worse but a bit further down the pipeline.
They could use it for the labourer branch as well and it currently is the vehicle that has the biggest gap between varity considering power system and body sizes in real life compared to what we have in an unmodded game.
It would benefit greatly from the new mirrors as well.

 

That would make sense, the bus is another branch for making money in career mode, transporting people on a large scale

 

I agree with all of this. No ABS semi but ABS on semi trailers? Thats kinda suspicious.

 

Seeing AI buses in traffic, actually stopping at stops (and maybe even following routes) would be nice. An official version of the 'Bus Display Controller' mod could also be implemented.

Back with the T-Series, maybe we'll see a multi-part remaster just like the Roamer and D-Series received. We already know we've got a (as someone mentioned, Euro looking) mixer upfit in the works, so the T-Series remaster isn't over.
Edit: spelling

 

A lot of that stuff will most likely be improved upon when audio raytracing is implemented

 

Which would also have an improvement to the openable doors

 

I'll bet the new alert about the developers taking a break over the holidays is fake. They're using it to make us think There won't be any hotfixes/updates, when really they've been working on the Moonhawk's remaster. /joke

 

i think summer is a scam made by BeamNG devs to get more players. absolutely true

 

*200BX remaster