Audio Feedback Thread

Steam haven't supported their Audio API since 2018.

 

"Hardcoded"? Well, it's currently programmed like this. You cannot customize the logic via settings nor via mods, so in a way it you can say it's hardcoded.

Regarding improvements to the current system. You need to understand there's two kind of improvements: those that are incremental (applied on top of the current approach), and those that start from scratch with a new approach.

The current approach is a dead end. It will never, ever be able to have all the features we want, and solve all the bugs it currently has.

A proper approach is based on raycasting / realtime enclosure detection / etc.

Dedicating time to the current futureless approach, means losing devtime into something that sooner or later will need to be completely scrapped. So not only are you wasting devtime for marginal improvements, but on top of that you now have a technical debts towards the modders who have began using those improvements. So you need to invest even more devtime to implement and maintain a bug-free mod retrocompatibility layer, during the future transition to the proper approach.

So it's a matter of balance, you need to choose how much devtime to waste on marginal improvements + slower code maintenance + potentially more broken mods, versus leaving it as-is and reserve that devtime for more productive tasks. It's a difficult compromise, we all know we could do minor improvements easily but, at what cost, and where do we stop. For example, I already added support for the 'Rider' camera in busses, since I evaluated the maintenance and future-mod-breaking cost to be acceptable. But further improvements are not clear from devtime/efficiency pov. The downside is of course that this particular part of audio will remain as-is for all of us until we get to that shiny promised new approach (who knows when we'll have time for it).

 

They do have reverb in the tunnels. The nature and type of the sound just means they don't "travel" as well. Superchargers are generally loud and very piercing sounds, which just perceivably reverberate better. Turbo whistle for example, doesn't travel a large distance in the first place

 

Overrun is implemented, and is controlled by the engine simulation depending on what parts you have installed on the vehicle, plus jbeam audio settings on the exhaust. Check out vehicles like the hillclimb Vivace.

 

Thank you for that!

 

When you say "rear view" you mean the chase camera?

I just checked a random car, and I can't find any problem here. My audio is running in surround however.

 

So you're saying the exhaust is brighter when looking back at the car from the front. This is not what I experienced when I checked yesterday, and would be incorrect.

What car? and are you in stereo or surround?

 

The loops are set up that they are 8db quieter at 1000 than they are at 8000. I'll have a look at the torque curves and see what's going on as they should be controlling the overall volume.

Edit: You can see here with the 1.8 Sunburst, I've logged the volume of the exhaust from idle in 3rd gear, accelerating up to redline and then releasing the throttle.

However, I'm not seeing the "volume" alter as torque changes; I would expect to increase with RPM and then drop towards the top of the RPM range.... so will investigate further.

 

Hi, I did pick up on your other post but yeah, good to reply here.

So most of our current loops we licensed from a 3rd party. They appear to have originated from recordings, and then processed with potentially granular synthesis to derive the loops. Moving forwards we are licensing more content from other 3rd parties where we need to do the processing ourselves. This content will all be recorded from real vehicles on track for the time being, but we are exploring other avenues such as procedural synthesis. That's a very brief summary

 

We haven't as yet. Things are quite fluid as the game evolves. Happy to answer questions where we can.