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I6 vs. v8???

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Insanitoid, Dec 10, 2014.

  1. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Nah, Ferrari is no big loss.
    Here's something. Ferrari have room to expand production capacity. Why don't they? Drives up demand for their cars, if people can't get the car yet want the car, it appears more and more people lust for the rarity. They could easily double their output, they could actually get away with decreasing the price tag and at that doubled output still make more money. But artificial demand is their business.
     
  2. redrobin

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    Solid rear axles have no place in anything other than pickup trucks and heavy equipment. But do please try to remember that the Mustang had a stick up until the 2015 redesign. Also try to remember that the solid axle Mustang the worst handling muscle car you could buy in its pre-2015/post foxbody form. Does this mean I hate the 'stang? No, it's one of my favorite cars, but now it's modernized and now a choice for a "driver".

    I personally think that Ford and even Chrysler are doing a good job modernizing their range of vehicles. Chrysler is pushing more for diesel cars, giving the Ram a diesel engine, and Ford making the new F-150 out of aluminum. Then there's GM with their solid rear axles and their 2-valve pushrod V8s and V6s. It's time to get out of the Middle Ages and start building cars that can compete with their European and Japanese counterparts, or we're in trouble.
     
  3. Potato

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    Ya see, the thing is that Suburbans and Tahoes are pickup trucks.
    They're built on the Silverado chassis.
    I don't like these more complicated and less durable suspension setups.
    I'm stubborn and resistant to change.
     
  4. Atomix

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    You're american.
     
  5. Potato

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    Hell yeah I'm an american.
    Don't want none of that European bullshit in my cars.
     
  6. BlueScreen

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    Ferrari is actually independent now, so yea, Fiat must die.
     
  7. redrobin

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    Well, you see, the Expedition is built on the last gen F-150. Just because it's based on a truck doesn't mean it should be a truck.
     
  8. Potato

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    What's your point?
    If it's based on a truck chassis, that's exactly what it is; a truck.
    It's just got a different body on it.
     
  9. redrobin

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    Just because it's something based on something with suspension from the 1800s doesn't mean it should have it too should have suspension from the 1800s.
     
  10. raiderfan

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    Negative they won't be on there own until next year sometime.
     
  11. Potato

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    I like suspension from the 1800s.
    If I'm looking for a sports car, I'll buy a sports car.
    A suburban is far from it.
    I want a truck that is simple and dependable.
    I'm guessing people don't want modest, dependable, simple pickup trucks anymore?
     
  12. logoster

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    IRS > Solid axle in the case of american suv's

    i've driven a solid axle american SUV, and i've driven the expedition (03 to be specific), the expedition had a FAR better ride quality, AND you could actually fit normal sized adults in the back COMFORTABLY


    on an ACTUAL pickup truck then solid axle is fine, because it'll handle the types of loads you'd put on it better

    but in the case of a body-on-frame SUV, IRS is a far better choice
     
  13. BlueScreen

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    But it's already confirmed, which is a good thing.
     
  14. ithec_

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    Most V8's sound amazing but you forgot about these baby's!! In my opinion the Ford GT40 has the best V8 sound out there...




    In this video sh*t gets real!
     
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  15. Mythbuster

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    Actually yes. The reason that the Porsche makes more hp is because the 850CSi was designed before 1989... The GT3 RS model you're refering to, was designed between 2006 and 2009.

    Try taking a 2009 high performance V12 vs a GT3 RS, make the same comparison.
    Let's, for example, take a MurciƩlago designed before 2002, and look at the hp that makes... Ah, 580 hp... Lets look at the 2006 model... 640hp.

    Also, power =/= hp. Power can refer to a combination of torque and hp, just hp, or just torque.

    In that regard, an engine with more cylinders will usually have more torque, which is why you can pull a trailer behind a Suburban / Macho Grande doing the autocross all day long and go just as fast(or slow...) as it would without the trailer, but my 4-banger BMW already feels significantly slower when there's 4 people inside of it instead of just 1.

    So actually yes, more cylinders does usually mean more "power", however it depends on a LOT of things. I'd imagine that if the same team of engineers designed 2 engines, both with the same displacement per cylinder, and one is a 6-banger and the other is a V8, the V8 will almost definitely have more torque, and most likely more horsepower as well.
     
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  16. CTJacob

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    You forgot one. 1:18
     
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  17. ithec_

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    Sound so brutal, that Ferrari got scared! Lol
     
  18. WrongBrothers

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    I dunno, I think the Bizzarrini 5300 GT Strada is higher on my list.
     
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  19. SixSixSevenSeven

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    @mythbuster above, snipping huge posts is a pita on mobile and I'm feeling lazy

    "Power =/= HP". Horsepower is funnily enough literally a unit measuring power. I'd give you rated peak horsepower figures not mattering as much as the band it delivers that power across, but as it stands the statement is factually incorrect.
     
  20. mtchll3

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    1st, hp is a measure of power as 6677 said
    2nd, of course it would be more powerful it has a larger displacement, if u get 2 identical engines and attact them u will have more power then just the one engine, it would use more fuel to supply that power
    3rd, this is a bit of a bump, i realise that
     
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