New build, Germany

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by LJFHutch, Feb 22, 2015.

  1. LJFHutch

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    So I'm going to build myself a new PC since my previous one is stuck in the forest back in Australia. I could increase the budget if it meant a significant improvement of course.

    I'm curious to know what you guys think of what I'm currently considering putting together:

    €55 CASE

    BitFenix Shinobi Core Midi-Tower, schwarz
    http://www.amazon.de/BitFenix-Shino...e=UTF8&qid=1424441372&sr=1-1&keywords=shinobi

    €124 SCREEN
    24" LG Electronics 24MB56HQ-B
    http://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...56HQ-B-schwarz-1920x1080-HDMI-VGA_975191.html

    €60 HDD
    1TB Western Digital WD10EZEX Blue
    http://www.amazon.de/dp/B0088PUEPK/?tag=pcp05-21

    €77 SSD
    120GB Samsung EVO 850 interne SSD
    http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-75E...e=UTF8&qid=1424441685&sr=1-3&keywords=850+EVO

    €65 PSU
    600w Corsair Builder Series CX600M Modular Netzteil
    https://www.caseking.de/shop/catalo...1.html?tduid=fb6e379c528b507474ca9722884edc54

    €240 CPU
    Core i5-4690K
    http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00KPRWB9G/?tag=pcp05-21

    €33 CPU Cooler
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
    http://www.amazon.de/dp/B0068OI7T8/?tag=pcp05-21

    €141 RAM
    16gb Corsair Vengeance Schwarz 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz
    http://www.amazon.de/dp/B006EWUO22/?tag=pcp05-21

    €366 GPU
    ASUS STRIX GeForce GTX 970 OC 3584MB GDDR5 256bit
    http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00NFFAW50/?tag=pcp05-21

    €90 Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H Intel H97 So.1150 Dual Channel DDR3 ATX Retail
    http://www.hoh.de/hardware/mainboar...3?c=169801&sCoreId=j0vhumvc69gar0hvvuqq7gtdj3

    €110 WINDOWS

    Total: €1361
     
    #1 LJFHutch, Feb 22, 2015
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  2. BlueScreen

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    Very nice build, just one big problem: Zotac is utterly terrible, get an ASUS, Gigabyte or MSI 970 instead. Unless you want your graphics card to catch fire and explode, then go with zotac.

    Also, if you want to overclock at any point you will do better with a z97 board. If you don't h97 is fine though.
     
  3. Jujune

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    Seems okay for your setup. Some parts are a few € cheaper on some sites but ugh just some.

    If you would buy a good pc at Saturn or Media Markt (Our biggest tech-markets here in Germany) it would cost you about 1500€ or so.

    Go with your setup, seems not bad.
     
  4. BlueScreen

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    Buying pre built is wrong.
     
  5. Jujune

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    Yap thats true. They arent powerfull enough and they cost even more.
     
  6. 3r1cFPS

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    Good setup! But as already mentioned, I'd recommend MSI or Asus instead of Zotac. :)
     
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    Get tdev parts and he will surely slap them together for you :rolleyes:
     
  8. Diamondback

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    What's the main purpose of the small SSD? Are you sure 120GB is going to be enough for you? I worked with two 120GB SSDs (and a big HDD) for a few years and it was a constant struggle where to put which program/game in order to keep them both somewhat balanced. Then again I have tons of dev tools on my PC, so it depends on what you need ofc...

    I'd still recommend getting a 256GB (or more) instead, they are not much more expensive and usually quite a bit faster aswell.
     
  9. LJFHutch

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    Thanks for the advice everyone :) Yeah the Zotak was something I wasn't so sure of, never used them before but it was cheap. €30 is a good enough upgrade for no fire though.

    Updated the original post.

    I was mainly getting an SSD for the OS drive, not to put games on, is it worth the extra cost for having a game or two on it?
     
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  10. SixSixSevenSeven

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    I only know of a few games which benefit from SSD. Civilization is one, takes me 15 minutes to get from steam library to game, has a whole ton of crap to load.


    I'd move all the windows libraries to target the D drive. Its pretty easy to do.
     
  11. vladmir poopin

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    mines very good ( or it will be when i get the 970) its fine doing things i need it to do
     
  12. Bisofication

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    Everything seems ok except for the I5. Why don't you go with an I7 ?
     
  13. SixSixSevenSeven

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    And it would have cost you alot more than building it while likely have a terrible PSU to boot.

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    Because an i7 is just an i5 with hyperthreading and to 99.99% of users (including gamers) the hyperthreading brings no benefits?

    In theory Hyperthreading aids BeamNG (although makes no impact on my machine, but I only havea 1.8ghz dual core mobile i3), it aids video work too. Most games and software doesnt gain anything from it.
     
  14. vladmir poopin

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    it was £560 and the 970 is £284 so yea it prolly dose
     
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    Problem comes with whether your PSU is up to powering a 970 or not.
     
  16. Diamondback

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    From my experience most creative tools /development tools can benefit greatly (think of Visual Studio, Lightroom, Photoshop etc). For games it depends on the loading mechanics, if everything is load at once, the whole process will speed up quite a bit, if there is dynamic loading it can yield less stutter and more fluid loading.

    You can expect rather significant benefits for everything that needs to write a lot of small chunks of data quickly (for example compile processes), but not sure how much you have to do with that sort of stuff :)

    I'd absolutely put all my work programs on the SSD, same for Office stuff. If there is still free space, put all your work files there as well. Atm, I am running three SSDs in my PC (the two old 120GB ones and a new 512GB), the big one is for OS and all programs, the second one for development work and the third for all work data related to photography and video.

     
  17. LJFHutch

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    SSDs over 128gb are pretty pricey though, even the cheaper brands.
     
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    That's not entirely true. I'm using a MX100 256GB since October, it has less stuttering and glitches than the Samsung 830 256GB I had beforehand. And as you can see, it's not even that pricey: https://geizhals.de/crucial-mx100-256gb-ct256mx100ssd1-a1122681.html?hloc=de
    You may also want to add your parts to a wishlist and let that page compare prices for you.

    The K CPU would only help you with overclocking, but your board would probably not support that anyway. But that's where my knowledge stops - I don't do ATX builds and especially not those which support overclocking...
     
  19. vladmir poopin

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    my what?
     
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