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Official Logitech G27 Wheel Setup/Tune Page (Global Device Settings)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by TheSkidKid, Jun 7, 2015.

  1. TheSkidKid

    TheSkidKid
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    Welcome all to the Official Logitech G27 Setup/Tune Forum Page. Here you can post your setups/tunes and find similar or different ones to try out on your own rig. This post is only intended to serve a purpose for those seeking good setups and need a little help. This post is based around your custom Global Device Settings.

    Disclaimer: I have gone through the forums top few pages and was unable to find a similar or exact page like this but if you do, please notify me and I will gladly let you lock this post of take it down :)

    Rules:

    This is a topic for people in game settings, NOT your Real life setup.

    When you post your setup/settings, please try to keep it in this format:

    Global Device Settings:

    Force Feedback Device Settings:

    Overall Effects Strength:
    0-100%

    Spring Effect Strength: 0-100%

    Damper Effect Strength: 0-100%

    Enable Centering Spring in Force Feedback Games: Yes/No

    Centering Spring Strength:
    0-100%

    Steering Wheel Settings:

    Report Combined Pedals: Yes/No

    Degrees of Rotation:
    0-900 Degrees

    Description: Also include a description of your current setup, what do you use it for, Drifting/Racing/Realistic Driving to give users an idea of what to apply it to.
    Feel free to post your favorite car that you use with this particular setting.

    Ill start with my settings:


    Global Device Settings:


    Force Feedback Device Settings:

    Overall Effects Strength: 5
    %

    Spring Effect Strength: 5%

    Damper Effect Strength: 5%

    Enable Centering Spring in Force Feedback Games: Yes

    Centering Spring Strength:
    26%

    Steering Wheel Settings:

    Report Combined Pedals: Yes/No

    Degrees of Rotation:
    900 Degrees

    Description:
    My setup is mostly used for Drifting but I need to alter it. The car I use most is my custom built Ibishu 200BX Drift Missile.

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    Thank you all and I look forward to seeing your tunes!

    P.S. Remember, if this is a post that has already been created, please inform me and take it down, no hassles, we are all here for the love of this game.


     
  2. Nucula

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    Hi


    Force Feedback Device Settings:

    Overall Effects Strength: 100
    %

    Spring Effect Strength: 100%

    Damper Effect Strength: 100%

    Enable Centering Spring in Force Feedback Games: Yes

    Centering Spring Strength: 45
    %

    Steering Wheel Settings:

    Report Combined Pedals: No

    Degrees of Rotation:
    900 Degrees

    Ingame FFB Settings:

    Force Coefficient: 40

    Force Limit: 5

    Force Smoothing: 125

    Force Smoothing High Frequency: 35

    Description:
    But i also modified th ingame FFB settings, so the force is much lower. I use this setup for drifting and racing. I also increased the maximum steering of the 200BX for better drifting. I also added the handbreak (non toggle) to the wheel button to get my car sideways.
     
  3. Dr. Toxic

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    I don't ever bother changing the global device settings... 100% for everything. The profiler (IMHO) is the biggest waste of space on my SSD.
    It doesn't detect running games OR change the configs when required to do so.

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  4. Tobyto

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    IMPORTANT UPDATE 09-20-2015:

    Hi!

    Here are my settings for a Realistic Driving Experience.
    Below i give you a detailed documentation of what i've learned working with the Logitech software and the G27.
    This could help, even if you're not searching for a Force Feedback Setting close to mine. Have fun!! :cool:


    YOU HAVE TO USE THE GLOBAL DEVICE SETTINGS!


    Force Feedback Device Settings:

    Overall Effects Strength: 105
    % (strong effect)

    Spring Effect Strength: 0% (no effect)

    Damper Effect Strength: 80% (light effect)

    Enable Centering Spring in Force Feedback Games: Yes

    Centering Spring Strength: 0
    % (strong effect)

    Steering Wheel Settings:

    Report Combined Pedals: No

    Degrees of Rotation:
    900 Degrees


    Ingame FFB Settings:

    Force Coefficient: 250-800

    Force Limit: 2.5

    Force Smoothing: 150

    Force Smoothing High Frequency: 250



    Use the Force Coefficient to adjust the steering force. I recommend you to leave the Force Limit set to standard 2.5. It will change the strength and the overall effects. For a more weak FFB (car with a power steering) set the Force Coefficient to 250 or slightly more. Crank it up for a stronger FFB (car without or with older power steering). I.e. with my Ibishu 200BX Custom Turbo i use 700.

    Force Smoothing and Force Smoothing High Frequency here in BeamNG adjust the rumble and vibration of the wheel. I leave Force Smoothing at standart 150. Different settings here will change the feel of front tyre grip and lead to an unrealistic feel of an understear situation (understear=front tyre looses grip). Force Smoothing High Frequency i set to the highest setting to reduce the rumble and vibration to its minimum possible.


    Spring Effect Strength has no effect. Damper Effect Strength dampens every effect on the wheel and so it slightly reduces rumble and vibration (or is imagination;)). Centering Spring Strength has a strong effect.


    Older approach but try this out for user content mod cars:
    To find the perfect realistic steering forces you eventually have to adjust the Centering Spring Strength in the Logitech Profiler Global Settings to a slightly higher value for each car. If you change the Force Coefficient and the Force Limit in the game engine you will also change the strength of the overall effects produced by the game software. I don't recommend you to go too high with these effects, because your wheel could suffer from it on the long run. So indeed change the Centering Spring Strength. Your wheel won't suffer by strong steering forces (so far as i experienced it).



    My general approach:

    I always search for the most realistic steering force and center spring feel, that i can get out of my wheel for that specific game. I've got my driving license for 18 years now and since a long time i'm racing on nearly all PC sims and many driving games out there. I've driven some different street cars so far and sometimes i search for the limits of the car on the tarmac. When there is some snow i go drifting on a parking place :rolleyes:



    General Explanation:

    Some driving games out there are not programmed well for the Logitech Profiler, because the coding of Logitechs software is somehow deficient. But also it is very time consuming to program it right and in the end you'd have to adjust the code for every car AND for every combination of car and track to get it perfect. In nearly all modern finished games (except TDU2:confused:) you need to put the spring effect, the damper effect and the centering spring strength to 0%. With the profilers standard setting at 100% you will have an unrealistic behavior with damped, slower and inaccurate wheel forces or sometimes these sliders don't effect the game either. They are mostly used, if the game is old and has no FFB implemented.

    For most games you don't need to setup a specific game profile. The software always reads the Logitech Profiler Global Device Settings and so i only adjust the FFB forces and FFB gain ingame. The game engine is doing the job and i don't want the Logitech software to change the behavior of the wheel. That's why usually i've got my Global Device Settings on 105 / 0 / 0 / yes 0 / no 900 / yes .. because, like i said, mostly all of the games will work best with that for a realistic approach. 101%-107% overall strength is to minimize the dead center of the G27 due to its construction and its motors (a more expensive wheel will give you a much better center spring feel out of the box). The 0% setting for the rest because in most of the cases the Logitech profiler then interferes with the game and blurs out the original FFB information coming from the game engine.



    Realistic forces of a steering wheel:
    In an old street car and in cars i.e. like the Lotus Elise, an old open wheel (formula) car or a racing kart you have no power steering build into the car. So the strength you need to turn the wheel, especially when your car is not moving and when you're going fast is much higher than with a power steering. In the case you are not satisfied with the FFB of the car or mod and you want to simulate this, you raise the Centering Spring Strength, the 4th slider of your Logitech Profiler Global Device settings. For an old open wheeler without power steering you could simulate it by cranking up the Centering Spring Strength to a very high value, if you're searching for a realistic feel and the car or mod does not provide it out of the box. But the G27 is not able to give you a realistic feel at all. For that you have to buy the top-notch pro hardware. In an interview the driver of an older Formula One car explained once, that at the end of the race at Monza the last corner into the straight at high speeds over 200 kph the muscles of his left arm reached its limits to hold the wheel and hold the car on track.
     
    #4 Tobyto, Jun 30, 2015
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2015
  5. kruleworld

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    when i start BeamNG it doesn't set the wheel to 900°, but 200, even though i've set it to 900 and not allowed game to change settings. i have to use the wheel's shortcut to set it to 900 degrees. (which is "button 18+button 2+button 3")

    i presume you have, but you didn't mention it. have you turned on 'Apply profiles to games automatically' under the menu 'Global Profiler settings'?
     
  6. 1UZ-FE

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    I've been trying to find the best G27 settings for BeamNG. A quick look at the wiki shows that most of us are doing it wrong:


    Drivers: Force feedback configuration[edit]
    Note: the location and name of these options will vary from one steering wheel to another. If in doubt, ask at the forums.

    • Make sure FFB is enabled.
    • It is usually best to use 100% overall strength. This usually assures more fidelity in the forces. Don't worry, BeamNG.drive allows to reduce or increase the force from within the game (more on this later on).
    • Try to disable any centering spring. If not possible, set this centering spring to 0% strength
    • Try to disable any damper effect. If not possible, set it to 0%.
    • Try to disable any spring effect. If not possible, set it to 0%.
    Keep in mind that centering springs, damper effects, and spring effects are not required for BeamNG.drive; the high frequency physics engine allows to output raw forces without having to use these special effects.



    If you like it the way you have it, do as you please. I am just trying to make note that most of you guys aren't getting the most realistic FFB in BeamNG!
     
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