I'm planning to build a gaming pc for my brother and he wants to play at 1080p and1440p resolution. His budget is around $1100-$1400. Is is micro atx based by the way. But he heard from some guy that he should buy a gtx 650 and then later buy the gtx 970 which is the gpu I want to use for his build. What do you guys think about that theory? Also I have the link to the build. Would like some advise about the build if it is good. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nMwLTW
No expert here but I would DEFINITELY up that SSD to at least a 256GB. You will be sorry if you don't.
The reason I have such a small capacity ssd is because m.2 ssds are crazy fast. Faster than normal 2.5 ssds.
500 Watt power supply should suffice. GTX 970 ~250W CPU ~ 100-200W depends on overclocking Rest ~10-30W Yea and i would also go with atleast 256GB SSD. SATA SSDs an m2 SSDs are already quite fast. Hard to tell a difference between em because the main point that hurdled HDDs was access times. And both SSD types have exceptionally good access times. Also might wanna check if a cheaper board can get the job done aswell. Like the ASRock Z170M Pro4S i quickly googled offers the same PCIe x4 m.2 slot.
The reason I went with a 750 watt psu was because I plan to sli and overclock the cpu the 970. If I kept the single card only, I would get a 500 or a 600 watt psu in that case.
In case you will miss it: Also might wanna check if a cheaper board can get the job done aswell. Like the ASRock Z170M Pro4S i quickly googled offers the same PCIe x4 m.2 slot.
That motherboard you listed is atx and the build is Matx. I know it's expensive but that is the only solution for sli comparability.
And another suggestion might be a different case. I got the Cooltek W2 at home (available also with a window if your brother prefers to show off etc.). It can house Full ATX and usual full size GPUs and a full PSU and should only a bit taller than the desired Corsair case.
Thanks for telling me about that case. I might look into it. As for the motherboard, I looked at the specs and it doesn't support sli.
Just thought I'd need to tell you, Asus RMA is horrific according to many people on the internet. Other than that it looks like a nice build, altho I'd suggest you to also get a normal like 1tb or bigger HDD, because 128gb is very small. Also, I'm doing a Skylake build too *LINK*
I use Asus for everything and they haven't let me down at all so I don't think I will need to be doing any rma. And yes I will get a hard drive.
That build is pretty unbalanced. You're better going with the 4790K + H81 mobo instead. I wouldn't buy a z97 mobo and WT for the 4790K, It goes up to 4.4 GHz itself, when the maximum OC that you might reach lucky is 4.8 GHz. And dont buy a 650 in any way, there are better cards for the same price, (750, 260x, etc) and also the 950 was recently launch and performs even better than the GTX 760 and costs 159$. Also the R9 Nano is almost here, which seems to be a great small card for 1440p. If you're going to wait, I would consider the 980 TI instead of a 970 SLI and drop the PSU to 600W that is still way more than enough for a 980 TI. 4670K at 4.4 GHz with WC + 780 TI powered by a 450W Corsair RM.
Why z97? Skyline just came out and it is the next generation of the mainstream platform. The i7 6600k can overclock better than the 4790k. Also an i7 is overkill. The i5 is perfect for gaming and has overclocking potential. The 980ti is a great card I grant you that but it is focused for those who want to play at 4k resolutions. My brother can't afford a 4k display. He only has a 1080 and wants a 1440p display. Also 2 970s would be the about the same price as a reference 980ti so you wouldn't be saving any money. The reason I went with a 750 watt psu was because if I wanted to sli the 970, I would have enough power or even sli 980. Also lets say I get a 450 watt psu, overclock the cpu and gpus, it be at late say 400-430. If it is using all that wattage from the power supply, that will mean the psu will be at load a lot. I would honestly rather have a high wattage psu and have it run cool at load than a low wattage psu run hot at load.
It is the next generation, that does not mean better. And a 6600K does not overclock better than the 4790K, those crazy results that you might have seen are from samples for reviews. Same thing happened with the 4790K that supposedly could have achieved 5.0 GHz and it was a lie. This is not about overkill, is an i7 an overkill? Yes. But you're spending the same money or less by taking off the WC and using a non Z motherboard, so why bother about overclocking when you already have a great CPU like the 4790K that performs better than the 6600K even in single thread process? Also I wouldn't say it is a overkill for BeamNG jeje. And you can overclock the i5 as much as you want but you will never get that multithread performance that would impact in the future with DX12. Same thing happened way back in the past with the E8400 vs Q6600, everyone was saying that the Q6600 was a overkill and games wouldnt need more than 2 cores and today the Q6600 still performs reasonable good in many games vs the E8400 which is directly unplayable. And even if the 6600K overclocks better than the 4790K, that is not 100% guarantee that you will get a good OC, there's too much silicon lottery there, jeje. Always avoid SLI/Crossfire, that gives many headaches of incompatibility or does not increase the performance as it should. And your brother could afford a 4K display next year, 4K displays prices are getting cheap fast, so think about it.
You need a Z board to overclock though, getting a K processor with a non-OC board is useless. And there's literally no performance difference between an i5 and (quad core) i7 for gaming, any minor difference comes from the i7's higher stock clock. Clock for clock they are exactly the same, HT does nothing. Might get more vehicles in Beam but that's it, I don't think it's worth the price for better performance in one game. So... Either get an i5 and save money, or go X99 6-core, which is overkill for gaming (since a high end i5 is more than enough to never have a CPU bottleneck) but okay for future-proofing I guess. Haswell vs Skylake, Skylake has like 10% better performance clock for clock and OCing is the same, Haswell actually takes higher voltage. If they're the same price it's worth it. If the 6600K is much more expensive, just get a 4690K. OP: That motherboard is way overkill, get a cheaper one.
I already said why you dont choose a Z motherboard for the 4790K. Seriously, apparently I don't know how to speak. The 4790K itself has a turbo of 4.4 GHz when a 4790 non K just goes up to 4.0 GHz. And the maximum OC that you can get with the 4790K is 4.8 GHz. So tell me, Does a Z97 for the 4790K worth it???? Just tell me that. Also I'm gonna ask you, What do you prefer? That overkill motherboard with an i5 or a i7 + cheaper motherboard that makes it the same price? HT DOES SOMETHING! Obviously not a big deal, but you get an stabler frame rate with better minimal FPS. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1260?vs=1544 And again, that 4790K costs the same or less with a cheaper motherboard vs the 6600K. Now, Skylake vs Haswell, there's no 10% IPC increase when gaming. http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/10 Even in synthetic benchmarks, the difference from Haswell to Skylake is 5.7%. I dont know where did you read that 10%, hopefully it wasn't an Intel's advertisement. http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/9 And man, even the 4690K with Z97 motherboard has a similar price vs the 4790K + H81 motherboard (Although you need a BIOS update for that one). I took these prices from amazon: 4690K + Asus Z97-A (Your motherboard) = 380$ 4790K + Gigabyte H81M-DS2V = 380$ and again, the 4790K is already overcloked, has HT which does help when gaming, even a bit.
Ok I have has well and an i5 4690 on my own system. It is a great build build I want to stick with skylake because, 1, usb 3.1 and I know has well has usb 3.1 but is offered in higher end boards. Also m.2 on haswell is gen 2 and the ssd on the list is gen 3. Also I want skylake because the platform just came out so there will be better cpu upgradability in the future. As for haswell, the only cpu available to upgrade is the i5 5675c and the i7 5775c which is better than haswell in efficiency and internal gpu performance. I used Samuel1995 advice and got the i7 with a cheaper motherboard. Instead of going with a micro atx platform, I'm sticking with atx with the air 540. Also the only chipset available is Z170. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7J4xMp
Never think about upgrade. I already discuss that in another post. " Man, dont bother about upgrading, that is what I've been saying since Sandy Bridge... And 4 years later, the 2600K is still one of the best CPU you can get. I'm gonna tell you one thing, I remember when people started choosing the 4770K over the 3770, when the 3770 was cheaper and cooler, and I could be overclocked via No K OC, (Something completely blocked on 1150, yeah Intel!), they said Broadwell will be the next huge step, it will perform twice due to its 14nm process and bla bla bla, then Intel launched two new chipsets H97 and Z97 which are the only ones that support Broadwell, so whoever that paid more for a Z87 motherboard + 4770K over a Z77 motherboard + 3770 (No K OC) expecting to get that "next step" just wasted money. xD And finally that day has come and Broadwell is here guys and its a total a disaster. xD the 5775c performs even WORSE than the 4790K." Well, thanks you choose a cheaper motherboard with the i7 instead. Now if you wanna stick with Skylake because of a better chipset, I dont have anything to say against that, just think about the noticeable differences of them.
