misleading performance

not the fps i was expecting/that was implied
pc specs in signature, for a 'better' optimized game for modern hardwear i very much doubt that, when compared to rigs of rods which is older and less optimized, where i can turn all the goodies on, spawn a couple cars crash them and still get decent fps30-120, whilst on beamng i can get anyhwhere from 15-60+fps the latter being AND looking terrible, it perfomans better on the tech demo imo, with higher settings on the base grid map......., would want a refund but steam doesnt allow it, and i was told i would get better fps with dx11, but actually i get worse.....

 

Steam do honor refunds, as long as you haven't played the game for more than a set period of time.

Secondly, Rigs of Rods is a much less complex piece of software running on a completely different engine, this will have a great effect on what you perceived performance is.

if you list what your graphics settings are and your system spec, the community can help see if theres something your system could benefit from you changing. If the community is feeling kind of course!

I personally do not thing there is any "misleading performance" as no promises were made of the games performance on your pc, I'm not sure how you see this as misleading.

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Ive just noticed you have a laptop, an NVidia 840M will not give you much of a gaming performance and certainly not powerful enough to play high end games at high resolution with all the eye candy turned on.

try not to expect too much out of a mainstream graphics chip, most modern titles require a gaming level card, even my 2 year old 660ti out performs the 840M by a factor of at least 4.

This may be why you perceive an issue

 

It's not fair to compare to Rigs of Rods, the game is ancient, plus there aren't nearly any any effects going on; you'd be lucky to have a shadow for your vehicle.

The performance is not misleading: this game looks better, the cars deform better, and it's better optimized.

Perhaps you have too many settings on? Have you tried turning SSAO off, turning down mesh and lighting setttings, and changing your power plan to high performance?

EDIT: I'm not sure if dynamic reflections are enabled by default, but they really suck the FPS out of anyone's computer, turn 'em off. They cripple my GTX 970 to 35 FPS with them on.

 

To add, while I do get 60fps pretty easily on most stock maps with all settings as high as they can be, some modded tracks or cars will impact performance a bit. For instance, I get 30-45fps on Canyon of Speed, a pretty popular track mod for BeamNG.
I have a GTX 970 which is generally considered to be a fairly high end card. The 840m in your laptop is designed for less power usage and it's nowhere near any of the powerhouse 960-980m laptop GPUs you find in gaming laptops now days. The 15-60fps you are getting is pretty expected out of the hardware you have, and BeamNG is an incredibly complex game.

 

I guess he is referring to http://www.beamng.com/threads/15554-newbie-here-P?p=243794&viewfull=1#post243794 for the promised performance.

Still he is at 0.9 hours played. Should be able to refund via Steam. If it doesn't work contact Steam support.

Also i might add that the game isn't running well on my 650M + some quad laptop CPU, i have to reduce the resolution to like below 720p otherwise it overheats like mad. But that is a cooling problem and not a lack of performance.

 

Have you considered purchasing a cooling pad for your laptop? You might also have luck checking the vents for any dust; it can get quite deep in there so a can of compressed air will help get the dust out. It can make a big difference as well as make your laptop last longer!

 

Also open the laptop up for cleaning, as doing it from the outside won't get all of that dust. I can confirm that it's a cooling problem, as my 645m runs the game fine @ 1366x768.

 

Guys, this is not my thread. Pls don't derail. I don't need help on my laptop.

 

Ok, I was gonna add: "lets not derail this thread though" to my last post, but I forgot . Anyway, he technically passes the high-end system requirements.

CPU was released in '13, pretty recent. 4 cores (quad core) 2.40Ghz clock speed, but it turbos to 3.2Ghz.
IDK about the RAM D: (TBH, it's probably 4GB, but it could be 8GB. I don't think the RAM is THAT important.)
GPU has more than 1GB VRAM (2GB).
He must have at-least windows 7.. (probably windows 8).

He does meet the high-end requirements...

 

except his gpu does not exceed gtx 670, therefore he does not meet high end... 1gb vram don't mean shit with the processing power to actually push pixels.

 

That's true...

 

Yeah his GPU has about (and I'm guessing here, because I don't have the time to look up benchmarks) 50-60% of the power of the recommend "high end" GPU.

 

The 840m as AT BEST 33% of a 670 performance. In normal usage (especially in a poorly cooled laptop) it can fall to less than 15%.

 

and i7 with 4gb of ram please... 8GB ram 2GBVRAM(an extra 2 if need shared with ram) windows 8.1 pending update to windows 10 so please get your facts rights and use a tad of commen sense, i knew i would get roughly less fps than the tech demo but fps almost more than half the fps in the full game it is misleading but its not gonna affect me, i will just wait.

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my gpu at 60-70% load reaches 69c and stays there and clocks at 1,1XXmhz and stays there so its not a heat problem

 

The simple answer is that it's a laptop. You're not going to get good performance on a mobile CPU and GPU. It's nothing misleading about the game, it's one of the most CPU intensive we've ever had.

 

i am comparing it to the tech demo....
and i am aware this is not going to get 60fps and max settings, its common sense, i was led to believe that i would get better fps than the tech demo

 

By a forum member.

However I'd check the NVidia control panel that BeamNG is set as a high performance application.

 

By me, I told you, and I guess I should have said "by personal experience"

I said that because I've used the tech demo on three computers so far, and then tested the full version on the same three. All of them experienced significant increases.

My Laptop, with the techdemo (Covet on Gridmap, normal settings, all postFX): 15 FPS
My Laptop, with the full version (Covet on Gridmap, normal settings, all postFX): 21FPS

that's the only one where I have recorded results, but the other ones, including my gaming desktop, have continued to improve in framerate as the game develops. It's not a hasty assumption, considering the core improvements, API upgrade, 64bit upgrade, and a few other optimizations since the tech demo was built. I really don't know why you're getting inferior performance other than perchance your settings are different.

 

given rigs-of-rods is 'finished', i'd say it's MORE optimized. beamng isn't finished and hasn't been fully optimized yet. That said, any further optimization will likely be gobbled up with nice new effects, details and content.

 

RoR is at version 0.4.5.1 ... and 0.4 is far from 1.0 also known as first release version. So RoR is far from finished just like BeamNG.drive. It's just that there is more brainpower invested in RoR which may look like it performs better but in the end it's a single thread game. Put 5 cars and it stutters while BeamNG might still work because of multithreading.