Comprehensive Car Comparison

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  1. Scudetto

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    EDIT 12-2015: I'm re doing this

    I decided to create own thread for this, so here we go:

    I made large car comparison between all official cars (except T75), made own test track for all this etc.

    So, straight to the thing:

    Comprehensive Car Comparison between all cars.

    Performance / Handling

    - Acceleration
    - Braking distance
    - Braking on corner
    - Braking on very rough surface
    - Moose test
    - Handbrake grip on hill
    - Maneuverability

    Off-Road Capabilities

    - Ride height
    - Front/rear overhang
    - Wheelbase
    - Drivetrain

    Interior

    - Roominess
    - Trunk
    - Controls
    - Visibility

    Economy

    - 80km/h average fuel consumption

    Crash tests

    - Frontal impact 50% overlap at 60km/h (37mph)
    - Frontal impact 100% overlap at 80km/h (50mph)
    - Rear impact (cement block test cart) at 60km/h (37mph)
    - Side impact (cement block test cart) at 50km/h (31mph)
    - Rollover (rollover sled) at 80km/h (50mph) (This is not so exact, since the result may be entirely different on another try)

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    Model variations used for all tests (execpt crash tests):

    Covet Sport
    200BX Type-LS
    SBR4 TT Stage 2 DCT
    Moonhawk V8 Sport facelift
    Bolide 390 GTR
    Pigeon --
    D-Series Sport RWD
    H-Series RWD
    Roamer 4WD
    Sunburst AWD Sport RS DCT
    Grand Marshal V8
    Pessima 2.7 LX V6

    Models used for crash tests:

    "Normal" versions


    Large image: Here

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    I'll add front, rear and side crash pics later.

    I will test and add more official cars when they are in game. (not testing mods)

    Few pics of testing the test track (not actual car tests):

    Moose test
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    100km/h -> 0km/h braking
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    Rough surface braking
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    Rear impact
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    Front impact
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    Rollover
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    #1 Scudetto, Sep 23, 2015
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  2. JackAttak

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    This is beautifully comprehensive. Those stats should be featured in-game in the vehicle selector. Great job!
     
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  4. Nivracer

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    Very cool! I've actually started doing my own on acceleration, braking, ect. (in MPH) on every specific version of of the car. I'm not doing mods either.
     
  5. Scudetto

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    Thanks! :)

    Here comes frontal impact pics

    (60km/h | 50% overlap)

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  6. Quotex

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    Nice stuff going on here, i was actually working on something similar myself, i did some speed tests on the flat map a few days ago. And was actually going to do some 0-100 times and fuel economy tests next.
     
  7. Zero

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    Damn I thought of making this :/

    Great idea.
     
  8. Atomix

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    seriously, give this guy a medal and hang that on the car selection menu for each car or something
     
  9. Quotex

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    Here's a RAW version of the Top speed measurements i did a few days ago:

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    1988 Ibishu Covet 1.5 DXi FWD Sport (Manual):        N/A (Blown tire)
    1996 Ibishu Pessima 2.0 DOHC LX (Automatic):        N/A (Wheel Allignment Issue)
    
    1982 Ibishu Pigeon:                    95 km/h
    1977 Gavril T75 Cement Mixer Upfit:            102 km/h
    1977 Gavril T65 Cargo Box Upfit:            126 km/h
    1995 Gavril H45 Cabster V8 RWD Carbo Box Upfit:    127 km/h
    1977 Gavril T75 Long Haul Fifth Wheel Upfit:        130 km/h
    1977 Gavril T75 Fifth Wheel Upfit:            133 km/h
    1977 Gavril T65 Flatbed Upfit:                143 km/h
    1977 Gavril T65 Fifth Wheel Upfit:            146 km/h
    1973 Bruckell Moonhawk I6 (Manual):            153 km/h
    1993 Gavril Roamer V8 4WD Sheriff (Automatic):        153 km/h
    1976 Bruckell Moonhawk I6 (Manual):            154 km/h
    1995 Gavril H15 Vanster V8 RWD:            156 km/h
    1995 Gavril H45 Cabster V8 RWD Flatbed Upfit:        158 km/h
    1973 Bruckell Moonhawk V8 Sport (Automatic):        165 km/h
    1976 Bruckell Moonhawk V8 Sport (Automatic):        165 km/h
    1996 Ibishu Pessima 1.8 SOHC DX (Automatic):        162 km/h
    1996 Ibishu Pessima 1.8 SOHC DX (Manual):        168 km/h
    1988 Gavril D15 V8 4WD (Automatic):            172 km/h
    1988 Ibishu Covet 1.5 DXi FWD (Automatic):        172 km/h
    1973 Bruckell Moonhawk V8 (Automatic):        175 km/h
    1988 Ibishu Covet 1.5 DXi FWD (Manual):        175 km/h
    1976 Bruckell Moonhawk V8 (Automatic):        176 km/h
    1993 Gavril Roamer V8 4WD (Automatic):        177 km/h
    1988 D15 I6 RWD (Manual):                179 km/h
    2009 Hirochi Sunburst 1.8 FWD (CVT):            180 km/h
    1973 Bruckell Moonhawk V8 (Manual):            181 km/h
    1976 Bruckell Moonhawk V8 (Manual):            181 km/h
    2009 Hirochi Sunburst 1.8 FWD (Manual):        182 km/h
    1993 Gavril Roamer I6 RWD (Manual):            184 km/h
    1993 Gavril Roamer V8 4WD XT (Automatic):        185 km/h
    1988 Gavril D15 V8 RWD Sport (Automatic):        186 km/h
    1996 Ibishu Pessima 2.0 DOHC LX (Manual):        190 km/h
    1989 Ibishu 200BX 2.0 Type-L (Automatic):        191 km/h
    1989 Ibishu 200BX 2.0 Base (Automatic):        194 km/h
    2009 Hirochi Sunburst 2.0 AWD Police Package (DCT):    195 km/h
    2009 Hirochi Sunburst 2.0 FWD Sport (DCT):        195 km/h
    2009 Hirochi Sunburst 2.0 FWD Sport (Manual):        195 km/h
    1973 Bruckell Moonhawk V8 Special (Manual):        196 km/h
    1989 Ibishu 200BX 2.0 Base (Manual):            196 km/h
    1989 Ibishu 200BX 2.0 Type-L (Manual):        196 km/h
    1989 Ibishu 200BX 2.0 Type-LS (Automatic):        197 km/h
    2013 Hirochi SBR4 RWD Base (DCT):            198 km/h
    2013 Hirochi SBR4 RWD Base (Manual):        200 km/h
    1989 Ibishu 200BX 2.0 Type LS (Manual)        202 km/h
    1996 Ibishu Pessima 2.7 LX V6 Sport (Automatic):    202 km/h
    1996 Ibishu Pessima 2.7 LX V6 (Automatic):        205 km/h
    1996 Ibishu Pessima 2.7 LX V6 (Manual):        208 km/h
    1990 Gavril Grand Marshal V8:            211 km/h
    2009 Hirochi Sunburst 2.0 AWD Sport S (DCT):        214 km/h
    2009 Hirochi Sunburst 2.0 AWD Sport S (Manual):    214 km/h
    1990 Gavril Grand Marshal V8 Police Package:        216 km/h
    1996 Ibishu Pessima 2.7 LX V6 Sport (Manual):        216 km/h
    1981 Civetta Bolide 320:                218 km/h
    1990 Gavril Grand Marshal V8 Sport:            226 km/h
    2013 Hirochi SBR4 AWD Twin Turbo Stage 1 (Manual):    235 km/h
    2009 Hirochi Sunburst 2.0 AWD Sport RS (Manual):    237 km/h
    2013 Hirochi SBR4 RWD Twin Turbo Stage 1 (Manual):    238 km/h
    2013 Hirochi SBR4 AWD Twin Turbo Stage 1 (DCT):    241 km/h
    2013 Hirochi SBR4 RWD Twin Turbo Stage 1 (DCT):    243 km/h
    2009 Hirochi Sunburst 2.0 AWD Sport RS (DCT):        247 km/h
    1981 Civetta Bolide 350 GT:                266 km/h
    2013 Hirochi SBR4 AWD Twin Turbo Stage 2 (DCT):    270 km/h
    2013 Hirochi SBR4 AWD Twin Turbo Stage 2 (Manual):    272 km/h
    1981 Civetta Bolide 390 GTR:            310 km/h
    I'll be redoing these tests again, and i will make a more comprehensive stat list with the results i get in the flatmap..

    I'm kind of curious, how would one go about "rating" crash tests? Is it measured by G forces? And what should i be looking for damage-wise?

    Would it be okay if i used your crash test ratings in my excel sheet?

    I've put an example of what the sheet would look like here (note the performance and economy ratings will be changed when i have more vehicles to compare them to)

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    #9 Quotex, Sep 24, 2015
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  10. vladmir poopin

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    you forgot t75
     
  11. Quotex

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    He did mention that he didn't add that one on purpose... Probably because it would mess with the overall safety & economy ratings...since it's a large commercial truck
     
  12. Scudetto

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    Mm, that is really nice and interesting :)

    the following things affected to crash ratings:

    - how much cabin collapses
    - airbags
    - will doors stay closed
    - does windows break

    But yeah, I should watch G forces too. Good idea. Maybe should re do crash tests.

    Yea you can use my ratings :)

    Your sheet looks good, how did you test city economy?

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    About T75, I can do it too, but probably will not add it to same comparison.
     
  13. Zero

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    Especially be noticed that, if this part breaks/starts to bend it's usually quite of a bad sign.
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  14. CryDev

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    Its called a pillar.:)
     
  15. Quotex

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    I used something based upon the New European Driving Cycle

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    I calculated the fuel usage at 30 km/h, 50 km/h, 80 km/h, 100 km/h and 120 km/h.

    And also the Idle and Full throttle (Idle / RPM * Redline RPM)

    And made something that calculates those values based on the timeline in the image above, I'll release it along with the full excel sheet when i have the time for it, as it's sort of a mess right now. (function over form)

    Though i just noticed an error in my Highway calculation.
    And another error with accel fuel usage, so i fixed that as well in the calculation. it should be more accurate now.

    After the fixes in the formula, it does 33 CITY 39 HWY 36 Combined, which seems accurate seeing a most cars have a ~5/6 MPG difference between city and highway

    EDIT: still doing a lot of improvements, seems the Ibishu Covet gets above 50 MPG on the highway scenario.
     
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  16. TripleAye

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    This thread is fantastic, desperately needed in game.
     
  17. Яeverse Bass

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    While the stats are marvelous to behold, there is one hing that should be seperate. The performance/handling values should be divided into two seperate ones, as under performance I understand the speed and acceleration, whereas handling would be about cornering, pulling gs, breaking out and all the things that make a car hard/easy to drive.

    With those two being merged, you can't really say anything when seeing the star rating. The 200BX LS is on par with 390GTR and the RS Sport AWD DCT beats the 390GTR, according to your stats. I beg to differ.

    I also noticed that both the H-Series and the Sport Moonhawk are rated 3 stars. Meanwhile, whether it's in a straight line or on a racetrack, the Moonhawk will leave the Vanster behind.
     
  18. Quotex

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    I've updated the list of top speeds, it now includes all the variants, measured in the latest version, i'll add these to my Excel sheets as i get further along with those, but i decided to post them here for now. As it might take some time to get those done.
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  19. Scudetto

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    ^ That is utterly good work! 5/5 :)

    Yeah, you have a good point there, and I was thinking same thing. About Moonhawk and H-series, you're right. Why H-series then got same stars: because it has ABS and shorter braking distance.

    Overall Moonhawk got 3.1 stars, and H-Series 3 stars, I guess I should lower the importance of abs rating. (and few others)

    I'll maybe remake whole thing..
     
  20. Яeverse Bass

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    Interesting. Have you "pumped" the brakes like you should in any car without ABS? @100km/h the Moonhawk was with its rear axle where the front of the H-Series was, and that was the second try with KB.
     
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