General computer talk/advice

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by BlueScreen, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. Samuel1995

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    That's why I said that your country is weird.

    I dont know why steamroller performs like that on Passmark, Steamroller is in a nutshell Piledriver at 28 nm + more cache l1 (There aren't Steamroller FX, so those APU/Athlon does not have cache l3, not because of the microarchitecture, because of the die space, AMD had to cut that in order to integrated its iGPU, the Athlon still has the iGPU, neutralized by laser xD) .

    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1997&cmp[]=1929&cmp[]=2362

    The Athlon 760K is basically an A10 6800K without iGPU, it is Piledriver like the FX 4350, so that gives you an idea of how the lack of cache L3 affects passmark, but anyway, the 860K somehow beats the FX 4350. Steamroller does have a better IPC, according to AMD, +9% single thread and +18% on multi thread but in the rest of Apps/benchs it is basically the same/a little bit more performance, and there are cases where Steamroller performs poorly.

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    We could say that steamroller is as weird as Australian prices.
     
  2. minisnooken

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    The thing is though, I'm on a tiny budget, and I don't want to spend an more than around $170 (AUD) on a cpu, as i'm upgrading to a r7 260x probably as well. In that case, what cpu would be best for Beamng? (I'll also have to upgrade the mobo, btw.) And that $170 includes the mobo.
     
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  3. Samuel1995

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    What's your current CPU?
     
  4. minisnooken

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    The phenom II x2 255.
     
  5. Samuel1995

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    Havent you tried to turn it into a Phenom II X4?

    By the way, Whats your current motherboard?
     
  6. minisnooken

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    Its something like aPegatron 2A499 or something like that, I haven't checked in a while. I'll make sure its name tomorow.
     
  7. Samuel1995

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    I dont think it would be possible to turn your Phenom x2 into a Phenom x4on your mobo, those Pegatron motherboards come with a really basic BIOS and does not have the utilities to do that.

    You should consider upgrading to a Phenom II X6, they're great CPU's with similar performance to the FX 6300 http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/635/AMD_FX-Series_FX-6300_vs_AMD_Phenom_II_X6_1055T_(95W).html

    I would really consider one of those instead of changing the whole motherboard and CPU for an i3.

    The only problem is to find a 95W Phenom, you can find many used Phenom X6 a good prices but most of them are the 125W ones, and it is more likely that your motherboard supports CPU up to 95W.
     
  8. BlueScreen

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    A Haswell i3 is much better than a Phenom X6 in single core performance and will be very close if not better in multi-thread too. Plus you get an easy upgrade to anything up to an i7. Better yet, go Skylake, you can then upgrade to any Skylake CPU or even the next generation with a BIOS update, since it will also use the LGA1151 socket.
     
  9. Samuel1995

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    It does not worth it, you're basically changing the whole PC for an i3 that isn't completely better than a Phenom X6 that you can get for 80$.

    http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/693/AMD_Phenom_II_X6_1055T_(95W)_vs_Intel_Core_i3_i3-4170.html If the i3 at least were similar in multithread I would understand it. To be honest, It is way better to save that money and use it on a better GPU like a GTX 950.

    Not to mention that going to skylake also means buying new DDR4 RAM's, you're wasting money for something that isn't completely an upgrade.

    I remember that you said this in another post "You might get somewhat better FPS, but you might also want to look at an AMD FX-8320. It's cheaper since you won't need to replace your board and it's more powerful than an i3 (although the i3 does have better single core performance)."

    Well, if you compare the 1090T that is in other words a 1055T OCed 400 MHz vs the 8320, you will see a similar multithread performance: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/328/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8320_vs_AMD_Phenom_II_X6_1090T.html
     
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  10. Funky7Monkey

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    I'm recommending a custom PC for a friend, and want some input. He has no interest in overclocking, rather is a bit lacking in computer knowledge. His budget is "under $700." Not including OS.
     
  11. minisnooken

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    Well, my mobo has like a 95W limit. So I really don't know.
     
  12. Samuel1995

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  13. Whippy

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    I just bought an Xbox one.

    ​*Hides from PC master race people*


    I've been dying to get Forza, so I went onto eBay, and a few days later I found a deal where I could buy the X1 for almost half the retail price, I took it the chance I could. Now I'm just waiting for it to arrive once ol' mate ships it :)

     
  14. Zorin-Ind.

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    Forza 6 looks amazing. It even runs in 1080p60 I read. Do want.
     
  15. BlueScreen

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    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gJ8DRB
     
  16. minisnooken

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  17. Samuel1995

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    Well, apparently your motherboard does not support Phenom II X6 Cpus xD. So moving on...


    Pick the i3 4160/70 and if you're going to pick a motherboard with a chipset that isn't Z97/H97 make sure that its Bios is updated to support those i3, otherwise you could have a nice black screen.
     
  18. Rage

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    CPU-Z has this new benchmarky thing


    (imported from here)
     
  19. Cwazywazy

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  20. Michaelflat1

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    My school system is kind of like that, they have a 1 gigabit network connnection going into the building and the stupid network switch turns all the computers to 10mb/s when we are logging on at the same time, this results to the start menu freezing and fustrated kids spamming the explorer buttons causing it to crash explorer, which then has to load up again!
     
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