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The limits of the engine.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Frosty The Hobo, Aug 18, 2013.

  1. Frosty The Hobo

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    For the sake of argument, is it possible, in any way, to literally rip your car in half?

    Has anyone played Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance? Great game, I must say. I really like the fact, that you could cut through nearly anything. In a somewhat similar case, would it possible to cut of a part of the car, if you drove into, say, a giant sawblade?

    I can imagine entities would be somewhat hard to make (I, for one, have absolutely no experience in game development), but entities with capabilities of doing actual things - Rather than just moving around - would be quite interesting, if put into the game.
     
  2. Petrovsky

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    Back when they were using cryengine it was possible, as of now you can't rip cars in half, but don't worry, it'll be implemented in the future :D
     
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    You just said it isn't possible, and that they will implement it in the future. I don't understand...
     
  4. 0xsergy

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    It is already possible, not sure what those two are babbling about^. The problem with it is that it wouldn't 'rip' cleanly. There would be random beams that would still hold some of the shape together so it would become like jelly in the broken middle bit instead of ripping apart which wouldn't look very good so, for now at least, no ripping cars in half.
     
  5. Petrovsky

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    Grammar mistake, fixed :)
     
  6. derbymutt

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    I personally could see there being an issue with the meshes scaling with the split n/b. Unless the model could have an edgesplit applied to it dynamically I don't see how you would be able to tear the model in half easily.
     
  7. tdev

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    that is fixed: try it - the mesh will be hidden when all underlying beams break.
     
  8. derbymutt

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    Wow, I can't believe I didn't notice that before...
    44U2Y.jpg
     
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  9. tdev

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    you can notice it quite well sometimes when the mesh on the pickup grill is ripped away :)
     
  10. Petrovsky

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    wait, so is it currently possible to rip a car in half?
     
  11. tdev

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    yes, exactly
     
  12. 0xsergy

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    Mesh wise yes. ATM though Gabes NBs are tuned for the car to not rip in half so it won't happen.
     
  13. AceDeucey

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    His aren't because his are made with realism in mind. Someone making their own mesh could accompany it with a NB that is incredibly weak across the center, such that the car would fall in half at the slightest bump in the road.
     
  14. NkosiKarbul

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    anything will rip apart if hit with enough force and speed, also cars, they actually get shattered into pieces if a truck drives throu them fast enough, just like they would be made of paper and cardbox.
    american pickups just like a russian lada, it does not make any difference vs. an oncoming truck, as long the impact is strong enough for the specific vehicle in question.
    if you would watch car crash compilations you would know. i dont want to post videos here of people getting killed in accidents.
     
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  15. moosedks

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    I noticed it (at least I think i noticed what you're talking about) back when someone made a complaint that the grill disappeared in crashes after one of the live streams.

    edit: I went to find it. It was in the feedback thread. Live-stream-feedback/page7
     
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  16. Dr. Acula

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    But can something like this happen???


    (imported from here)

    Happened in Aus a couple of a years ago, a couple of teens were(obviously) speeding and hit a tree, the bulk of the car stopped but the entire left-hand side was torn straight off and continued for a few metres.
     
  17. moosedks

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    I've heard of sketchy shops welding 2 parts of different cars together and then that happening
     
  18. Dr. Acula

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    It was a Holden Commodore, so that isn't the case in this situation.
     
  19. AceDeucey

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    We've all tried driving the cars full speed into the wedge. I haven't yet seen an unmodified car get cut fully in half, and that wedge would be the best place to do it.

    Yes, trucks will make mincemeat of just about anything else they hit. But because they're so brick shaped, I doubt we'll see one cut a car in half before the car become unrecognizable.
     
  20. thevidmaster

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    over 300mph, no split :( hhh.png
     
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