New System Build (previously GPU Upgrade Recommendations)

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  1. Funky7Monkey

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    If you have that little money to spend, perhaps you should think about saving it until you can buy something that will last. The GTX 570 is 6 years old. The 570 (and similar used cards) will struggle to run current games at a reasonable FPS on even low GFX settings at 1080p, or even 720p. And honestly, it isn't all that impressive a graphics card can run a game that is only three years newer than it. I have an 8800GT (released in 2007) which runs games from 2010, such as Just Cause 2, Civilization V, and Fallout: New Vegas, just fine, albeit not at great settings. However, there is no way in hell it could play games from 2013, such as Battlefield 4 and Assassin's Creed: Black Flag.
     
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  2. simonfrat123

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    fallout 4 runs
    battlfield 4
    and you are a person behind a pc screen so you opinion means nothing to me
     
  3. Funky7Monkey

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    I take it you didn't read my post. I said that my GeForce 8800GT wouldn't be able to run Battlefield 4. And in case you didn't notice, both of the videos you posted are using two GTX 570's in SLI. That's twice the cost.

    My point is that if you only have enough money for such an old graphics card, you really should save up to buy a newer graphics card. You won't need to upgrade your GPU in 6 months (assuming you want to play current AAA titles) if save for a couple months and buy an R7 370 or R9 380. You will if spend your money now on a 4–6 year old card.
     
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    Don't know wy that'd be that unrealistic. CAD ~ Yen. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. redrobin

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    What you're failing to understand is that while you may not value anyone's opinion in this thread, the OP does and is looking for a GPU recommendation. I, for one, will not allow you to lead this poor guy down the wrong path.

    On-Topic: Don't listen to simonfrat, he's an idiot. Now, I could actually recommend a used GPU, but it would be fairly modern and bought used simply to save a couple bucks (R9 200, GTX 600, HD 7000). Wait for Polaris and Pascal to come out, then you'll be covered in R7 370s, R9 380s, GTX 950s, and GTX 960s to choose from. Now, if you're desperate for a GPU (and it sounds like you are), then I would recommend the R7 370. It's more powerful than its GTX 950 competitor, while costing, on average, only a little more. If $15-20 is an extremely big difference (and I completely understand that it can be), then go for a GTX 950. If the GTX 950 is still too expensive, the R7 360 actually brings a fairly good bang for it's buck, costing a little less than the GTX 950 and only being slightly slower.
     
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  6. Deleted member 126452

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    Whow, seems like I'm way too polite. This guy knows what's up.
     
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  7. simonfrat123

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    calling me an idiot gets the moderators involved good job!
     
  8. Funky7Monkey

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    He said it because it is true. It's obvious that you don't do good research. You refuse to. If you did, you would agree with what has been said. Instead, you've been ignorant and narrow-minded, countering with points that are obviously invalid. I'm taking those involved to PM to keep the thread clean and on topic.
     
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  9. ryder2341

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    I wholeheartedly agree with the 750 ti because it's done me proud as far as graphics go, but the only thing holding my performance back is my POS processor :/ If you have a better CPU than I do then you're golden.
     
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    > Argueing six months after the thread has been started because someone bumped it
    > People argueing for the sake of the argument
    > ThreadStarter most likely not reading or caring anymore
    > BeamNGGHGGHHHHforums
     
  11. ryder2341

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    Wait, six months? I only replied to get my two cents in but apparently the only reason this thread is active now is because someone started some BS :/ Whoops
     
  12. nolotank

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    No, I'd say it's still active. I still have a poor setup, and still appreciate all advice presented to me.:)

    To those arguing: Please, don't do it here. I appreciate everyone's feedback as I believe everyone is trying to help me BUT

    Not helpful.

    On Topic: Thanks for all the advice guys! Looks like there isn't much room for improvement with my current setup but will definitely look at your recommendations when I am putting together my next setup.

    Cheers, Nolo
     
  13. MehmetErdemErcin

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    I think its late a little bit but I'd like to tell a couple things.

    First of all, you need to think just Intel for the CPU. I'm using a AMD FX-6100 6 core processor clocked to 4.5 (but i will go up to 5ghz) and after this overclock, I started to enjoy BeamNG. It is an unlocked processor so i can overclock it until it dies. And, this CPU had 3.3 ghz stock speed and it was really slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow to play. It was so slow that I was be able to count the frames. It was horrible. After I clocked to 4.5 ghz it was playable with no problem. I tryed to 2 cars. It wasn't bad actually I still can do chase missions without any problems. And the game gets better and better day by day.

    And, if you want to go for a AMD GPU, try to go around R7 and R9 series. If you can choose a number ending with a "X" like my GPU, which it is a AMD Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2gb GDDR5 1050(core speed) / 1500 clock speeds. I'm overclocked it to 1200(core speed) / 1675 clock speeds. It runs well on a gigabyte 970a-ds3p (revision 2.0) motherboard with Corsair Vengance 2x4(8gb) 1600 ddr3 ram sticks and Windows 10 64 bit. It is a really budget pc relies on overclock. But for this game, I recommend you to use only Intel. This game relies on single core performance rather than the overall core performance. I'm planning to buy a brand new laptop (because i need to travel a lot) that has a i7 skylake for the laptop. A GTX 980M 8gb gpu and 16 gigs of ddr4 ram. It's a beast around 2k to 2.5k$ and it is a 17.3 inch model. I can prefer Monster and MSI, if you want to have a Laptop(In case, I'm not recommending you to buy one but it has the great advantage of the mobility. Nvidia GPU's are for the people have money. AMD is generally has best results for price/performance and the availability for every budget type. In Nvidia, you got Low end , Medium end , high end and extreme ones... In AMD, you got Low end, Medium End, Medium-High end and High end. AMD has tons of selections. A little bit better than Nvidia. Nvidia and Intel combination is the best for my opinion. But if you want to use Intel - AMD it is still nice. AMD GPU designs are a little bit old. They rely on overclock and high clock speeds. And, don't forget. If you want to buy desktop, you are OK for 300-500-600$ PC. But Laptop, you need a decent one. I'm hoping the technology will develope much more faster and we can get a lot much cool working and efficient CPU's that can work on laptops without any performance decrase. If you want to buy a laptop, you need a nice budget. And one last advice for the desktop! Try to buy a brand new +80 bronze certified PSU. If you think you will upgrade the PC, 600watt is the unnecessery power for you. (In that 600w +80 bronze thing is actually enough for SLI or Crossfire. You can go for a 500w psu. And it will be all enough for your system. Don't buy a case with built-in power supply. They generally be cheap and bad quality. And, if you want to buy a second hand desktop, be sure your fans are turning easily and in the right way. I had a 2.nd hand psu and after 3-4 months it burned. Thanks to got my motherboard and components were alive but i scared a lot. When i started to inspect it, its fan was not turning and it was stuck. Even me i was hardly turning the fan with my hand. And one last thing... When you checking for the GPU's the Bit, Memory and GDDR5 matters but... It depends on the GPU's architecture. If it is new, It is good.
     
  14. nolotank

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    Update!

    I finally pulled together some cash and I'm planning to toss the whole thing and start from scratch (with the exception of my SSD).

    Build Plan
    Intel i5-6500
    Gigabyte Z170-A Gaming Mobo
    8GB G.SKILL RIPJAWS DDR4 (1x8)
    EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC
    EVGA 500B power supply
    Win 10 Pro - free copy from a developer friend - yay

    Based on the advice given to me in this thread I chose the i5 - GTX 750 combo over an i3 - GTX 960 combo. I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who spent their time researching and writing to help me out. I'm sure I will be better off because of it.
     
  15. AMG V12

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    Surely you would be better off spending less on the motherboard and more on the GPU? The 750Ti is pretty underpowered compared to that i5.
     
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  16. Funky7Monkey

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    I think you should go for an H110 or H170 motherboard, you won't be overclocking your CPU. And go for a GTX 1050 Ti, one with a 6-pin power connector, it'll overclock like a beast. If you need to, buy an i5-6400, rather than a 6500.
     
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  18. nolotank

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    Swapping it up a bit:

    i5-6600k
    Radeon RX 460
    ASUS Z170-E

    As earlier suggested I am pushing my budget further towards CPU than GPU.

    This setup is designed to give me a clear upgrade path for the future: GPU. I believe by improving the CPU I am increasing the overall lifespan of the computer before an upgrade is needed.
     
  19. randomshortguy

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    That's a good build, but if you want more GPU power but can't afford it, don't bother buying low-end video cards and then waiting to upgrade. You'll spend significantly more money in the long run, and you'll have to deal with selling a secondhand, would-be dated GPU which will return less than half its original MSRP.

    Go big the first time, it's actually cheaper.
     
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  20. torsion

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    Alternatively the 6th gen Intel Core i products can actually run BeamNG on the onboard graphics. (That's not the only game they can play either!) Playing on the integrated graphics and saving more money until you can afford to "go big" on the GPU is a viable option IMO. Not great, but viable - and a lot better than wasting dough on low-end GPUs.

    @CreasingCurve - Would you mind posting your 6th Gen GPU performance numbers again? You posted some useful pictures a while ago which were lost in a thread cleanup.
     
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