General computer talk/advice

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by BlueScreen, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. redrobin

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    Fair enough. I haven't used Mint myself.
     
  2. SixSixSevenSeven

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    its ubuntu, but with a much better set of out of the box software (i mean ubuntu of old couldnt even play DVDs out of the box while mint of the time could, I think ubuntu can now. You get things like flash and java preconfigured on mint etc) and a UI that isnt laggy as shit that slightly resembles windows too making it much easier for migraters.
     
  3. Panda_Panzer

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    Not quite a full computer build, but if that is a launching platform/base on which to add parts (to build a full computer) or an upgrade to an existing system (pending new generation graphics cards), It should be a solid build nonetheless.

    It's Maybe even a tad overkill in terms of the motherboard- although it's not ridiculously expensive, and looks really cool (especially with the RGB lighting), You could save some money by going with a motherboard with fewer fancy features (something like an MSI Krait gaming or an Asus Z170-AR would do the job more than well enough (though admittedly with fewer flashing lights).

    The money you save from the Motherboard could go to some more RAM- although 8gb is enough for almost everything nowadays, it is slowly becoming a limitation, for instance in games like GTA it takes up 7.5 GB of RAM in my system (total system memory), a situation which will only get more severe in the future (though if you're only playing relatively light games, or games such as Beam.ng Drive, you should be mostly fine)





    As for graphics cards, An RX 480 would be a solid choice as it's performance is exceptional for it's low price-point, however if you are willing (or you plan to upgrade to crossfire RX480s relatively soon) then you could possibly smash open the piggy bank (or save up for a while longer, if able to) and get a NVidia GTX 1070, or possibly one of the higher end AMD cards which are yet to come out, to cement the future power of your rig.

    Getting back on point, pretty much all of the mid- high range Z170 motherboards, the one you have, or any of the ones I've mentioned will support having 2 cards in crossfire or SLI (though keep in mind that with the new generation on NVidia cards, they only out-of-the-box support 2 way SLI, though that's a long way off for this build;))
     
  4. skodakenner

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    just a question what exactly would be a good board for this it doesent have to have the rgb lights and so on because in my case there is a inch thick metal plate there so i wouldnt see the lighting also will a 550w power supply be enough for one of the rx480 with the processor and so on? for the games i want to play beamng drive and the new forza and gta 5 on it so i would need more ram maybe 12gb?
     
  5. Panda_Panzer

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    Like I mentioned before, I would recommend something like the Asus Z170-AR or MSI Krait Gaming Z170, because I've used both of those in friends' builds and they've been trouble-free and very accommodating (Choose whichever one has better aesthetics to you, or the better connectivity/ports)- also, both those boards are lower tier levels of a Motherboard family (Asus Z170 AR, Pro and Deluxe), so the're still pretty high end (especially in quality)



    a 550W power supply should be more than adequate for an AMD RX-480 and the core i5, although if you're looking into a future crossfire setup then you might need/want a higher 80+ rated Power Supply, or a more wattage power supply- a higher 80+ rating (gold and above) means that the Power Supply is more efficient in when running in the high range and is more suited to be run at the max advertised wattage (less strain and possibility of failure). A higher Wattage PSU means more headroom, and more efficiency and reliability when running the setup.

    Don't overdo the power supply, though (i.e. don't go spending way too much money for a ridiculously OP PSU) as you'd be wasting money buying it, and then wasting it by not using the potential.

    Overall, you should focus on getting a high quality PSU (look at the reviews, and buy from a reputable brand), just to prevent a catastrophic failure destroying your computer. I would recommend a SeaSonic S12II 620W, because it's a high quality unit which has a high wattage for even future upgrades, though any good 550W should be still sufficient for some time.



    For the RAM, you should preferably not get a 12gb setup, as running the RAM in 3 slots creates some limitations- it shouldn't be that much of an issue, but it might cause some issues when running (probably), and it means your RAM only runs in single channel (again, not too much of a problem). You should get a 16GB kit if you can afford to, or just get 8gb for now and get another 8gb in future upgrades (which is the path I personally have taken)

    What kind of budget are you working with? A lot of these decisions are based on how much you can spend and whether you want to spend more or not.
     
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    I think the Corsair RM650i or RM550i are the best PSUs you can get without a ridiculous price tag (~$120 on Amazon, still a lot, I know). On a lower budget, the CX-M series seems to be pretty good too. What I experienced is that when building your PC almost from the ground up, you tend to spend about twice as much money as you need for just the CPU and GPU when bulding a gaming PC. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at a certain price point that is true. Also, I didn't include peripherals in that. Those are sometimes cheap as crap, sometimes expensive as crap, depending on what you actually want.
    I seem to know way less about that than you, but I think it's enough by now.
     
  7. skodakenner

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    i am waiting with psu and graphicd card until next year for maonboard processor and ram i can spend around 500 euros
     
  8. BlueScreen

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    CX series aren't great, you should go EVGA for budget PSUs. Corsair RMi series are brilliant, but EVGA's G2 are just as good and usually cheaper.
     
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    K.
     
  10. Feinstein

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    I have a quick question: I have an old PC with XP that I need to replace soon (the animation software I was using on it is dropping XP support). I was going to carry over a few parts of the XP pc to the new one, such as the hard drive and power supply, as they both are working fine. I was wondering if it would be worth it to also reuse the graphics card that was on the old computer (it's an eight year old Radeon 4800). Of course, I would like to get a better graphics card in the future, but that wouldn't fit in my budget currently. So, would that graphics card be any better than the integrated graphics on, say, an Intel core i5 4590?
     
  11. BlueScreen

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    No.
     
  12. SixSixSevenSeven

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    would be a power hungry downgrade
     
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    The new CX series are actually pretty good, they blow anything Evga offers out of the water when it comes to budget units.
     
  14. BlueScreen

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    Can't find anything on them, but they really can't get much better than EVGA. Corsair is great for high end products, budget not so much.
     
  15. skodakenner

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    i just did some research on the parts when i go with a Asus Z170A board i have to pay 408.54€ with processor and so on. When i go with the MSI z170 Pro gaming Carbon i pay 393.32€
     
  16. Eastham

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    Me thinks if the new AMD RX480 is close to the GTX 1070 in performance and the speculation of it costing around 200 monies is correct, I might get one. Any thoughts?
     
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    We'll have to see, wild speculations are totally dumb at this point and will take anyone's time. As of right now I can just say that I'm leaning slightly towards the 1070 out of the bottom of my stomach.
     
  18. Ukkone...

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  19. SixSixSevenSeven

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    amd are claiming 200-300 bracket so it could well cost more than 200, though even 300 is value for money. From what's been said so far, is more equiv to a radeon 390, so not gonna be rivaling a 1070, but at half the price... And it will still be more than enough for 1080p
     
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  20. VeyronEB

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    If I recall correctly they said it was around about GTX 980 or 390x level performance for the RX480 and the pricing is £160/$200 so its really cheap.
     
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