Car Consistency

Discussion in 'Ideas and Suggestions' started by SeenCreaTive, Sep 15, 2013.

  1. SeenCreaTive

    SeenCreaTive
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    Well the PS3 and xBox were essentally PCs. The PS4 and the new xBox are a completely different architecture. They share system and video memory (ps4 uses ddr5 for system). That used to be bad, (when we had like 256 mb of RAM in total) so computers turned away form it, but now with the capability of 64 gigs on a single CPU there's no reason to not do it anymore. It makes things MUCH more efficient which is why the consoles did it, more power from cheaper hardware.

    Fifia 14 was originally only supposed to come out for the new consoles because the engine wouldn't work with standard hardware, it was too optimised for the consoles, but too many people complained and now they're releasing it for EVERYTHING, even the PS2. So we'll see how many games can be ported in the future


    As for CPUs, Intel has their new "Skylake" architecture coming out. 14 nm, DDR4 support (although I'd say just go for DDR5 off the bat), PCIe 4, ect ect, with a hyper threaded 8 core design (16 core essentially), should be scary powerful. Maybe I can replace my newly bought, poor little, overheating (ivy bridge problem in general), impossible to overclock, 3570k when it comes out....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_(microarchitecture)

    and who knows, maybe PCs will take a note from the new consoles and start sharing memory

    lol yes, questions are very good,

    Whelp we got VERY off topic, but forums are for good conversations I guess.
     
  2. Stian Aarskaug

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    Of course they were, but not as a "normal" computer.

    It's good, because it's an efficient system that doesn't cost as much as two seperate memories. PS4 don't use DDR5 (that's doesn't exist yet), but GDDR5, the same kind of memory that graphics cards uses. The bandwith is higher, although the latency is higher too. But all in all, it's faster than DDR3.


    Yeah, Skylake.. That's far away though, before that is Broadwell. It won't be anything revolutionary, still just those efficiency improvements (which will also mean some performance increasements, but still not much). SATA-Express at least. And DDR5 won't be available with Skylake. ;) New CPUs wont be like before sadly, about the thermal problem, it's really not good. I'm thinking of removing the heat spreader on my CPU and change TIM.

    Yeah, PC's are already starting to share memory more. But rather system memory being available to the GPU. Actually, what we have today with system memory, VRAM and cache is better than the principle of PS4. But it's more expensive, and that's why Sony went for that (good decision).


    Shhh, don't say it too loudly!!! :eek:
     
  3. SeenCreaTive

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    Leanred something new today about the PS4 \o/

    and yeah, the haswell CPUs mostly solved the thermal issues, it's mainly just an Ivy bridge thing. And yeah Ive seen all sorts of tutorials about taking the thermal shield off and replacing the compound that's in there with your own. I personally don't feel comfortable in my abilities to do that lol, so my solution is just to tank through it with a overkill cooler...... Although I did add too much thermal paste, and taking the water cooler out and bak in again will be a 2-3 hour jump sadly.
     
  4. Stian Aarskaug

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    Learn something new everyday. ;)

    It's still getting way to hot when overclocking.

    Just do your research and do it carefully, and you'll learn from it. I'm gonna take the heat spreader off, the only question is when.

    You don't need much thermal compound at all, just a little rice grain, it is better with too little than too much. ;) Remember, it will work without even (just a little warmer).

    You only need to remove the CPU block, that just take 15 minutes. :D Half an hour in total.
     
  5. SeenCreaTive

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    Heh I wish it would only take 30 mins, I have closed loop water cooler (H80i) in which the CPU water block is underneath the radiator. The CPU placement is kinda silly on my motherboard. So when I installed it I put the block on first, then held one fan in place against the case , while I used all my might to bend the tubes and radiator to the fan, held that in place, then put the second fan on, then held that whole mess in place while I tried putting the screws in, absolute nightmare. I was seriously afraid that I would burst the tubes, but they're insanely tough. As far as I bent them, they didn't even kink never mind showed any signs of breaking or falling off.
     
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