Tyre Thermals

Discussion in 'Ideas and Suggestions' started by SkinnierSteve, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. SkinnierSteve

    SkinnierSteve
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    65
    I couldn't find any topic on this, so I created a thread to suggest it to the devs.

    It would be great to have tyre temperatures, and if you burnout too much, you catch on fire like in this video
     
  2. Gentlemen...

    Gentlemen...
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2016
    Messages:
    2
    I do believe that the fire wasn't caused by the burnout (first clip), but by the low-hanging pipes which sparked the gasoline mixed exhaust fumes. But not a bad concept :)
     
  3. SkinnierSteve

    SkinnierSteve
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    65
    Yeah, I was talking about some of the other clips where the tires caught fire from all the heat and friction.
     
  4. Kona61

    Kona61
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2012
    Messages:
    214
    It's very rare for this too happen, and it only occurs under extreme circumstances.
     
  5. Inertia

    Inertia
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Messages:
    1,692
    It's not really, most of the aussie burnout cars flame up the tyres, they have insane power and no grip so it all goes to the tyres and hot rubber melts and usually catches fire.
     
  6. Kona61

    Kona61
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2012
    Messages:
    214
    OK, that is definitely extreme. Those cars are literally built to shred tires and they do it for as long as possible. On top of that it is often not the tires that catch fire first but fuel.
     
  7. Inertia

    Inertia
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Messages:
    1,692
    Yeah the whole point is to make as much smoke, noise and shred as much rubber as possible. I don't find it that interesting to be honest, many other fellow Australians don't care either but plenty do. Actually the tyres catch on fire before the fuel does most times, a "normal" burnout in a skidpan usually involves flaming tyres.

    One of my favourite examples here:

    And an even better one :D:
     
  8. lukerules117

    lukerules117
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2013
    Messages:
    729
    Honestly I think if tire heating was implemented the mechanics for them catching on fire or lighting something on fire would already be there
     
  9. atv_123

    atv_123
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2012
    Messages:
    1,710
    I always thought that those cars actually had small amounts of fuel dumped on the tires to get them flaming like that...

    This is more what I am used to seeing.



    However, that being said, this video comes straight from the burnout guys themselves and I learned something today!

     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  10. Slammington

    Slammington
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2014
    Messages:
    1,460
    It would also be nice to have tire thermals affecting grip and pressure. Race tires for example have terrible grip at low temperatures, but grip amazingly once they warm up.
    The best tire thermal simulation IMO is in Live For Speed at the moment.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. SkinnierSteve

    SkinnierSteve
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    65
    Yeah, I would like that. They should have a system like:
    Too cold = bad grip
    Warm = Good grip
    Too warm = less grip
    Even warmer = flaming tyres
     
  12. atv_123

    atv_123
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2012
    Messages:
    1,710
    No... it doesn't work like that... the tires will not ignite unless there is a fuel source that is volatile enough to ignite off of the heat that is present. The tires move a lot of air and fuel around to create the perfect storm for an ignition, but they themselves do not ignite the blaze.

    Instead it is the fire from the exhaust that ignites the fire and the tires themselves move enough air and fuel around to keep it lit. This is made even more evident that for most of the cars with burning wheels, as soon as they stop spinning the tires, the fire goes out almost immediately (as long as they weren't going at it for long enough for the tires to ACTUALLY catch fire from the inferno). This is because the tires themselves were not actually burning. Watch both the videos I posted above. You will see what I mean.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  13. SkinnierSteve

    SkinnierSteve
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2014
    Messages:
    65
    Ah, didn't know that. But would still be cool to see flaming tyres in the game if done realistically.
     
  14. stbest95

    stbest95
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2013
    Messages:
    259
    yeah tire temperature and tire wear would be great.
    we aldready have break and engine temperatures so why not tires?
    seems kind of counter-intuitive since most simulators prioritize tire temp/wear - then breaks after that - and most dont simulate engine temp at all.
     
  15. lukerules117

    lukerules117
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2013
    Messages:
    729
    aren't the tires in beam already flamable?
     
  16. BowlerHatJack

    BowlerHatJack
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    1,388
    No i don't think so? In what case would we seem them catch fire?
    Tires do burst when the car is engulfed in flames, but them catching fire from wear or such doesn't exist.
     
  17. lukerules117

    lukerules117
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2013
    Messages:
    729
    I thought that the tires caught on fire for a bit before the burst? and the situation where they would catch on fire is when something else is on fire, if heating was added to the tires and tires are already flammable it seems logical that the tires would self ignite under extreme circumstances.
     
  18. BowlerHatJack

    BowlerHatJack
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    1,388
    Actually you're are correct. I tested it with the ignite node thing from the app. The tires themselves do catch fire which causes them to pop.
    On topic: Tires have to be connected to the thermals system for them to ignite into flames from being hot. Currently the thermals for the cars isn't affected at all if the whole car is in flames, so when they add tire thermals they might upgrade the fire simulation a bit as well.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice