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  1. Poopoh12

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    How about this (Btw it does run, just not very well lol)
    CPU-AMD Athlon II X4 630 - 2.8Ghz
    GPU-Sapphire Nitro Radeon R9 390X 8GB - 1.1GHz
    RAM-12GB DDR3-1300MHz
    I'm going to upgrade in early 2017, at that point it'll be something like this.
    CPU-Intel Core i5-6600K - 4.0GHz
    GPU-Same
    RAM-16GB DDR4-2133MHz
    (I refuse to upgrade to Windows 10 lol, only reason I'm not going to get the new Kaby Lake i5)
     
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    Windows 10 is good and you don't HAVE to use Cortana. It's not like it'll kill you.
     
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  3. Funky7Monkey

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    That's a foolish assumption to make. There is no way for MS or Intel to force you to use a certain OS on a certain CPU. Not as long as Intel wants to stay profitable.
     
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  4. CentralContact

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    I heard Netflix released 4k ONLY to users with Kabylake CPUs or higher :p
     
  5. Poopoh12

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    Windows wants to get rid of 7, I'm telling you guys. The whole upgrade for free thing was supposed to get the majority to change over so they can discontinue it, wouldn't it be awfully useful if the new hardware only officially worked for Windows 10?
     
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  6. bauto601

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    Well, for my gaming rig i use Windows 10 because of DX12 support and some other optimizations. But for my laptop i still use Windows 7 because AMD didn't update their drivers for my 6650M Switchable graphics. So everytime i boot my laptop up i get for about a minute a black screen before the amd drivers start working. And they never fixed that. And Windows 10 had also the problem that when i shut my laptop off, it still stayed on but with a black screen so i had to push the power button for 3 seconds after every shutdown because Windows 10 screwed that up.

    So i'm having mixed feelings about Windows 10. Did i already said that Windows 10 forces you to update your drivers while you don't want that?... Or... And...
     
  7. Poopoh12

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    I don't want Windows 10 simply for that exact reason. I've had trouble in the past with updates, certain things being incompatible with something on my computer. Like crash my computer for 3 days bad. So screw Windows 10, I'll stick with good ole 7 until I can't anymore.
     
  8. Funky7Monkey

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    That's an entirely different issue.
    What? Microsoft does not own Intel. Or AMD. Hardware compatibility doesn't work like that. "Officially supported" CPUs with a certain OS is entirely bullshit. There happens to be hundreds of versions of Linux that just so happen to work with any CPU that uses the instruction set that the version was built for.
     
  9. Poopoh12

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    Microsoft is slamming the door on PC builders and upgraders who might have hoped to use the new Intel Kaby Lake or AMD Zen chips for Windows 7 or Windows 8 PCs. Sorry: Both chips are officially supported only by Microsoft’s Windows 10.

    Microsoft's mandate is discreet rather than secret. In January, the company tried to shorten its support lifecycle for Intel Skylake PCs running Windows 7 and 8, a policy the company subsequently abandoned after much outcry. But Microsoft’s statements have also consistently included a critical caveat: The latest generations of silicon—specifically Intel’s Kaby Lake chip, Qualcomm’s 8996, and AMD’s Bristol Ridge silicon—will all require Windows 10.

    “As new silicon generations are introduced, they will require the latest Windows platform at that time for support,” a Microsoft spokeswoman replied, when asked to confirm that that position was still in place. The goal appears to be to move forward with new features, even if it means leaving some users behind. “This enables us to focus on deep integration between Windows and the silicon, while maintaining maximum reliability and compatibility with previous generations of platform and silicon.”

    Why this matters: Microsoft's push forward, however rational from a technology standpoint, robs PC enthusiasts of their choice of operating systems—a freedom this particular sector of the community has loudly defended in the past. This could have broader implications for the PC market, too: It could be the deciding factor that finally brings about the abandonment of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. (Linux is an option, too, and nothing is precluding Apple from buying the chips for Macs, either.)




    I read an article this week headlined: "The latest Kaby Lake, Zen chips will support only Windows 10." It claimed Intel and AMD's new processors are "officially supported only by Microsoft’s Windows 10." This can't be true? What about Linux?

    Journalists, right? The short answer is Intel's Kaby Lake aka its seventh-generation Core i3, i5 and i7 processors, and AMD's Zen-based chips, are not locked down to Windows 10: they'll boot Linux, the BSDs, Chrome OS, home-brew kernels, OS X, whatever software supports them.

    So if you want to use Linux or some other non-Windows OS on your new CPUs, you'll be fine. It's OK, we checked.

    Sweet. What about Windows 7? Or Windows 8.1? Or any Windows pre-10?

    Yeah... nah. Shad Larsen, Microsoft's director of Windows business planning, blogged earlier this month:

    Future silicon platforms including Intel's upcoming 7th Gen Intel Core (Kaby Lake) processor family and AMD’s 7th generation processors (e.g. Bristol Ridge) will only be supported on Windows 10, and all future silicon releases will require the latest release of Windows 10.

    It's easy to misread that, which I suspect was intended, but Microsoft is just talking about Windows here. If you have a computer powered by a seventh-gen Intel chip or an AMD Zen CPU and you want to use Windows, Windows 10 is your only supported option.

    Intel spokesman Scott Massey told us, "per Microsoft's support policy, they made the decision that Windows 10 would be the only Windows OS supported on 7th-gen Intel Core" processors. He added: "The Microsoft support change obviously doesn't impact other operating systems."

    One example of Microsoft holding back support is the xHCI USB controller in sixth-generation Skylake and seventh-generation Kaby Lake: Windows 7 doesn't support that USB hardware, so installing the operating system from a USB stick using those chips is tricky. Intel provides xHCI drivers for Windows 7 once it's up and running.

    Why is Microsoft doing this?

    Windows 10 must succeed at all costs. It's Windows 10 or bust. If you're buying a flash new machine, what a superb way for Microsoft to shoehorn its latest operating system onto it; that'll really help inflate its usage numbers. And it'll make life easier for its engineers: there's less hardware to test and support, less code, fewer bugs, fewer problems for everyone.


    Two different sites, two highly regarded tech bloggers, I don't say random shit, I'm not some random "I know it all" asshole, excuse my language lol.
     
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  10. Funky7Monkey

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    How do you expect them to do this? Since you do your own research, I'll let you research that one. I'll go back to doing mine.
     
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  11. Poopoh12

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    They can do whatever the hell they want, they're multi billion dollar companies who know people are going to flock and buy their product no matter what the cost is. I'm not disputing you probably *can* use them on Windows 7 but it would probably present issues in the future that I don't want to deal with, especially if I'm paying 400 or more on all that hardware. And I didn't do research really lol, I just looked up Kaby Lake on Windows 7 and Ryzen on Windows 7, and just so you know, I'm not trying to insult you, you're obviously just as educated as I am in this sort of stuff, and honestly this just comes down to opinions. Intel or AMD could just be like "F@ck you guys, wait until Windows 15 for the new CPU" Lol.
     
  12. Funky7Monkey

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    Like what? Seriously, there is no reasonable way for Microsoft to enforce this.
     
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  13. Rainvest

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    Will this run?

    CPU: Intel i7 5960X
    GPU: GeForce GT 310 1gb
    RAM: 8 GB DDR4

    1920 x 1080
     
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  14. Rolph

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    There is no i5-5960x. It's i7

    Anyway... The bottleneck is real here
     
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  15. Poopoh12

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    Sell that CPU for like 900 bucks and buy yourself a 6700K and a GTX 1070 or something lol Unless you meant an i5-4690K, in which case safe up for a new GPU 'cause probably not
     
  16. Rainvest

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    i meant i7, whoops
     
  17. Poopoh12

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    That's like a retardedly amazing CPU but your GPU is balls, just buy a new GPU and you can max out any game (As long as your GPU can keep up)
     
  18. Tsutarja495

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    Will this run it half-decently?

    CPU: AMD A10-5700
    RAM: 8 GB DDR3
    GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7660D (integrated, 728 MB of VRAM)

    Should probably upgrade to an RX 460.
     
  19. Poopoh12

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    CPU should be okay, and don't go 460, get a used 7970, way better performance for similar price.
     
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