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AMD Ryzen or Intel for gaming?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by 4ndr3lac, Mar 15, 2017.

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AMD Ryzen(s) or Intels for gaming?

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  1. 4ndr3lac

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    Hello everyone! I'm currently using a FX-9370 (which I hate very much) and later this year I will travel to USA (a big opportunity to buy PC parts because buying them in my country is the same as asking to be bankrupt) and I need to know a recent Intel chip (or wait until AMD releases more Ryzens) to run really heavy games with 60+ FPS without bottlenecking my GTX 1060 up to US$ 450, which I won't need to upgrade in few years. I'm quitting of this AMD FX-toaster-nuclear-reactor-TDP game because I can't run my processor above 3.2 GHz (4.5 GHz factory frequency) since it would make my motherboard explode. Switching motherboards is not acceptable. I want a brand new processor.
    Thank you in advance!
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    Apparently, Intels are more expensive than this. Forget the limit I put :)
     
  2. 1UZ-FE

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    *Edited for removal*
    Admins delete this, I forgot you were talking about the latest AMD series, so my information was useless. Sounds funny, but I opened this thread to reply and got back to it hours later, so I only remembered this as a AMD vs Intel thread.
     
  3. 4ndr3lac

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    Thanks for helping. I will stick with i7-7700k.
     
  4. fufsgfen

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    Currently I would say that wait 2-3 months at least if possible.

    Currently Ryzen 1800X clocked to 4Ghz might do fine, but that is going to cost more than i5-7600K which would do equally fine on most games and of course you would need new motherboard (and possibly memory, if you are not running fast DDR4) if swapping to any other CPU family (CPU socket is different) than what you currently have.

    i7-6700K is actually on many benchmarks still best for gaming, from some odd reason i7-7700K is slower sometimes, Ryzen is behind, but many have posted comments thinking Win10 patch might change that, in Win7 Ryzen is faster than in Win10 and SMT disabled it is faster than SMT enabled in games.

    BeamNG is then different animal, it is not scaling quite same as other games in there, because BeamNG is one of the few that actually can utilize more than 8 threads, however single core performance effects on your specific use can make it or brake it, X1800 @ 4Ghz is very close to i7 and i5, any slower Ryzen is behind, what you need single core performance in BeamNG is shadows and many other graphical stuff, even if GPU gets most of the load, CPU has to do some preparation stuff on same thread shadows run and at the moment that core/thread hits 100% load GPU starts waiting and FPS goes down so you don't utilize GPU 100%.

    However currently there is no reliable data of how well Ryzen does in this area, based on Cinebench results that 4Ghz 1800X is close to i7-6700 non K, so it is bit behind of new i7 and i5 K models, but how much effect that will really have is a mystery.

    Then comes price in to play, if you are using 3-4 vehicles or less in BeamNG, you get best performance vs money spent with i5 K model, if you need more vehicles it is between i7-7700K and Ryzen 1800X, of course Ryzen 1700 might do fine, depends completely how you use BeamNG, but it is easier to run into single core limitations with that.

    In other games Intel seems to be better what I have seen in benchmarks, there being quite bit of difference actually, but here we are comparing workstation CPU to gaming CPU models, AMD R5 is said to be build more for gaming market, so might be best to wait for that to come, it might give you better value, however as it currently stands, i5 or i7 are choices for general gaming use that offer best value, get used skylake i7-6700K, motherboard and memory to get even better value.
    Ryzen is better choice for rendering and encoding kind of jobs and if you need to run more than 6 cars.

    Ryzen is very new at the moment, I would say wait 2-3 months at least, prices will settle and more information will become available.
     
  5. 4ndr3lac

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    @fufsgfen I really appreciate your help. Thank you very much ;)
     
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  6. MehmetErdemErcin

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    Yeah, for gaming just go buy a intel or a 1700 ryzen + now. And I was thinking about the AMD R5 1400 cpu. 4 cores 8 threads is ok for me but i hope people can get the intel i5 performance. I'm using a fx 6100 at 4.5 ghz(3.2ghz original) with a thermaltake cooler. And I'm playing battlefield 1 with it. Gtx 960 is ok but because of my cpu frame drops pretty common. In this game a gpu update(r7 260x to gtx 960) helped me realşy well
     
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  7. Eastham

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    For gaming? Either. Pick your poison. Brand doesn't really matter, it's the model.
     
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  8. MehmetErdemErcin

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    Is there someone in the forum that tested the r7 1700 cpu with this game? (With the latest win10 update of course)
     
  9. stbest95

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    in comparisons it seems that the intel cpu's still have a slight edge in games because of better single threaded performance.
    so if you only want to play games a decent i5 will still do a slightly better job.
    if you plan on doing other demanding work like rendering amd is the far better choice at the moment.
    you get much more for your money.
     
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