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Best cpu for the price for this game?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Blacknessess, Apr 11, 2017.

  1. Blacknessess

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    I don't have that much money and I need to build a new computer, I just need to know what cpu to get. I'm considering ryzen but currently I have an i5 7500 for about 200$. I don't need like 10 cars at once, just at least two at around 60 fps, I just have a mobile core i3 right now but I can get 60 fps with two small cars so I think the i5 might be a little much for just two cars. This is turning into an essay so I'll stop now. Thanks for reading this.
     
  2. redrobin

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    As someone with Ryzen, I'd almost say it's too much for just gaming. If all you're doing is gaming, I'd actually look at the Pentium G4560. They're hyper-threaded just like the current i3's and are cheap as chips.



    However keep this in mind, when running scenarios with more than 2 cars, you'll need more than a hyper-threaded dual-core. It was very easy for me to peg my old i5-4690k in a couple of the racing scenarios I play.
     
  3. Blacknessess

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    Well, I play this game and I'm going to get a couple other cpu-intensive games and also I'm going to need for this to be a decent computer for a few years, or until I get enough money to upgrade it.
     
  4. Ulrich

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    2 core isn't enough to run Beamng.
     
  5. Blacknessess

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    I have two cores and I just was playing the game...
     
  6. Ulrich

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    Smoothly* I had a pentium before, it was awful, you won't run more than to cars. If you have a pentium already don't upgrade to an another pentium you won't see much difference. Go with at least an i5
     
  7. iheartmods

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    If you're gaming at all, I'd recommend a modern (within the last 3 years) i5 as a minimum. Good luck!
     
  8. fufsgfen

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    With 2 cars, i3-6100 and i7-6700 are not much different at all, with one car it is hard to find any difference between the two.

    So modern i3 can do what you want, i5 can do also little more, but i3 is best for the money and Hyper Threading in it is quite impressive, not too far behind 4 cores. Intel is good especially at BeamNG as currently single core performance matters for example at ECA.
    It depends really from the map if CPU matters or not, but there are lot of maps where you want fastest possible single core speed and then some. Then there are maps like JRI or Hirochi where old AMD FX is just fine.

    You can get for example i3-6100 used for something like 40-50 or less, as being lowest spec core i model they are not wanted very much, but you can run it with semi-passive cooling if you want to and with integrated GPU it is possible to get 40FPS or even more with lowest possible details that is.

    I don't know how much different newer i3 or i5 is, but you are mostly buying from new and possible from warranty, performance / price ratio would be worse.

    Pairing i3 with something like RX 480 or if really low budget even RX 460 will do just fine when lowering bit details from max (see bottom of 1st post https://www.beamng.com/threads/your-performance-testing-results.37866/)and you have that 60fps without spending a lot of money.

    Used components i3-6100 (or why not i3-6300 if can be found) and RX 460 might be around 100-125 together? Then motherboard + memory to that, 2666Mhz or faster to keep things moving fast. That is my view of best performance for the money.

    You can spend 200 for just CPU, but you can get CPU, GPU and memory for that money, still need a motherboard and that I would buy new, but can be had around 100 or maybe even less I think? So ~$300 for upgrade that will run BeamNG 60FPS. Can it be had for cheaper?
     
  9. redrobin

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    Did you not watch the video? Or even read my post at all? Both of those CPUs are Hyper threaded, and perform damn near identical.

    He'll be more than fine.
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    Trust me, it'll be more than adequate. I have a friend who uses an AMD FX-6100, which is light years behind in terms of performance compared to the Pentium, and he games just fine. I have another friend who uses a first generation i7 from 2009 and does 1080p video rendering with it.

    That Pentium is almost perfect for you. It's a fast, modern CPU, can be had cheaply, and can be paired with a strong GPU for a great gaming experience.
     
  10. Ulrich

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    I did. But I still think that 2 core isn't enough for BeamNG.
    I won't compare GTA V or Battlefield with BeamNG requirement.

    Especially since he have a 200$ budget. Don't what's the point of getting a 64$ if you have 3 more times the budget. We don't even know if it's compatible with is Mother board socket.
     
  11. redrobin

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    That's my point exactly. Instead of blowing his whole budget on just a processor, he can purchase almost an entirely new system.

    A hypertreaded dual-core is perfectly fine. I'd understand your concern if I were recommending a Celeron or the Pentium G4400, but the G4560 is perfectly fine. It doesn't matter if he gets a Pentium or an i7, with two cars, the game will run THE SAME.
     
  12. Ulrich

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    He said that but he will quickly regret as the game get more optimised for more cars and scenario gets more cars.

    I'd rather getting an i5 for 3 time more money, and keep it 5 years, than buying a cheap "Good" pentium who's going to be outdated in 1 year. If he wants the I5 he told us, his computer probably worth more than 200.


    I see your point but, still I disagree, you don't recommend a Sandero to someone who can buy a Golf.


    Anyway, I probably don't know enough to make good recommendations.
     
  13. fufsgfen

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    Hmm, do I need to disable HT do a benchmark, then activate HT but disable 2 cores and run same benchmark to settle this?

    2 Cores + HT and 4 cores without HT are not far apart in BeamNG, I did not watch the video, but I can tell if 2 Cores and HT can run higher clocks than 4 cores performance will be equal.
     
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  14. Blacknessess

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    I am getting an entire new computer, I'm just asking about the processor, I'm going to get an rx 480 or maybe the rx 580 if it's a better choice, I just need i know which processor I should get, I'm going to spend about 800$ on it
     
  15. The Green Hell

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    I have one i7 in my machine.
     
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  16. redrobin

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    Oh, then Ryzen 5 hands down. You get 8 threads (or 12 on the 1600/1600X) instead of 4 for the price of an i5. It's more than you need, but future proofs you a bit.

    Btw, that's information that should have been in the OP ;)
     
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  17. Qwertyfish01

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    Right now get a Pentium G4560. Down the road you can upgrade to something like a i7 7700K or even 8th gen cpus when they come out.
     
  18. Spaceballs the Username

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    While you might be fine with a pentium, a processor with more cores like an i5 or a ryzen 1500 will make for a smoother performance as background apps from the OS and such will run on separate threads and not cause stuttering in your game.

    Cheers.
     
  19. CannedPakes

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    I get 60+ average fps on a non-overclocked (I'll get to it eventually) Pentium G3256. Cost $70 new when I got it.
     
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