General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. Panda_Panzer

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    Just quickly, the thing about RWD Tesla was popularised by a youtuber called What's Inside, who didn't realise the 'treads' on the tyres that he could see were actually the steel belts of the tyre, dangerously worn. Just imagine driving a 420bhp car with no rear tyres... From that, my brief time in Tesla's have told me that even the non performance models are very fast. A lower-end 70D for instance does 0-60 faster than the Mercedes CLA 45 AMG (4.4 sec for the Tesla) and although there's no lovely engine noise, the surreal feeling of electric torque makes the acceleration just as addictive ;)
     
  2. aljowen

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    In which case he probably should get rid of it because his knowledge of car maintenance is dangerous :p

    Thanks for the clarification
     
  3. Bakasan

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    If you think paying 20k for a nippy little 80's hot hatch is bad, consider this:
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    Here is an immaculate 1972 Holden Torana GT-R XU1 that recently sold for $102,000, almost 5 times as much as what an equally immaculate AE86 would be worth. If we were to look at both cars from a pure objective sense though, the AE86 is certainly the more refined and sophisticated of the two. The Torana is certainly not 5 times as good as an AE86, so why pay 5 times as much?

    Here's another good example:
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    A 1961 Morris Minor Traveller, which was also recently sold, for $27,500, a tad more than an equally mint AE86. Once again, from an objective standpoint, the AE86 would crap on this old pommy turd in every single aspect; performance, reliability, road handling, ride comfort ect..
    So why pay more for one of these??

    Because people are willing to pay for an image/badge. That, and supply and demand.
    You have to remember, the AE86 is a classic now, lots of people want one but the supply certainly isn't getting any bigger. So naturally, the result of that is the price goes up. Don't like it? Buy another car;)
     
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  4. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Even the upcoming model 3 as the baby Tesla is expected to be extremely quick to 60. Less powerful than the lower end model S, but still extremely powerful
     
  5. Michaelflat

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    kinda weird that when browsing through the history of Honda i see the Honda Legend, and im like oh this is a nice car, i havent seen it before, then i look up and see that the Rover 800 was nearly the same car :p. Rover 800 looks smashing though
     
  6. aljowen

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    Plus the model 3 is imo a better looking car than anything else that they make.
     
  7. Bakasan

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    Honda and Rover had a partnership in the 80's/early 90's, which resulted in Honda lending a number of their platforms to Rover to sell as their own cars
     
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  8. redrobin

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    I've actually found myself wanting a Model 3. The way it looks has really grown in me and I love how cheaply I'm able to get one for. And I must confess, for being as disgustingly American as I am, I really love the speed in which I have excepted electric cars.

    Everything is going to be okay in the future.
     
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  9. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Not a huge fan of the lack of grilles in electric cars, but then they don't need one
     
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  10. Ytrewq

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    On the Corolla AE86 topic:
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    I wanted to purchase an AE86 Corolla myself one day, just to find out if it is as good as it is hyped...until I saw the prices. Now I think that this Corolla is one of the most overpriced vehicles in existence.
     
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  11. skodakenner

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    im not a fan of the model 3s design because it looks odd that it hasnt got a grille but it sure will sell well as its the only electric car worth buying
     
  12. MotherTrucker02

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    Based on how horrible my fuel economy becomes when hauling a trailer I'm not sure that the additional capacity would outweigh the additional load on the car. I'm just guessing though, if you did the calculations I might be wrong.
    As for me owning an electric car, they still aren't quite practical enough to have if you don't live in or near a big city, especially as a replacement for a 4WD pickup. Though it does make me wonder if we'll get an electric pickup in the near future? It would certainly have enough torque, just trying to get enough range when pulling something might be an issue.

    I agree, especially because Tesla shapes the front fascia like it should have a grille, but it doesn't.
     
  13. Googlefluff

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    Tesla has actually already announced plans for both a pickup and a semi. I'm not sure how they'll pull it off, but I doubt they would have told everyone if they didn't have something figured out.

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    (unofficial concept rendering)
     
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  14. SixSixSevenSeven

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    But then the pickup is still a niche. However yes. Tesla coincedentally have plans for a small SUV, a pickup and a semi truck.

    Of the 3 i am most intruiged as to how they will go about the semi truck. Some people probably can still cope with an electric pickup just fine, not all. But a semi truck, those things dont tend to stop a whole lot
     
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  15. DriftinCovet1987

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    Nikola may have your answer.


    This, called the One, is an electric/hydrogen-powered, all-wheel-drive Class 8 truck with a reported range of at least 1,000 miles. It's going to be using hydrogen as that will take far less time to re-fuel (probably around 10-15 minutes or so).
     
  16. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Yeah but hydrogen has even less infrastructure than electric right now
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    Best I can think of is detachable batteries, keep charged ones in depot and exchange em each stop
     
  17. VeyronEB

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    An EV would just be inconvenient if you ask me, sure expensive ones have decent range and all that but it just adds a lot of unnecessary nuisance to driving. Its just like a phone, the minute you need it for anything important you'll have forgot to charge it or it will need to sit for an hour on the $5k charger you bought before you can head out without worrying about it.

    Switching to an EV is like replacing your phone battery that charges in about 20 seconds with one that takes 4 hours...

    They will be sensible some day but currently they are just overpriced toys for rich people. Hybrids are the only practical way to do electric at the minute.
     
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  18. gigawert

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    Since when did phones charge in 20 seconds?
     
  19. VeyronEB

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    Was using it as a metaphor for petrol or diesel fuelling times vs and electric car.
     
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  20. aljowen

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    I would say that for the majority of people living in urban or semi urban areas who have two cars that replacing the smaller one with an EV is probably not a terrible idea. Especially if you are planning on leasing a car since they work out at the same price. Obviously if said car is fairly new there is less reason.
     
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