My uncle has got himself a free Tesla Model X P90D for the week and decided to pop round to where I live on the way back from collecting it. Firstly, photos of the car online do not do the car justice. I always thought it was a bit of an ugly car, but when you see it in person it actually looks pretty damn good. The doors are very cool too, but frankly normal doors would work just as well. The panoramic windscreen is absolutely fantastic, it makes the car feel so spacious inside and it is really nice being able to see the sky, its also tinted heavily enough that the sun doesn't cause problems. The interior trim is a bit crap, the maps also require the car to have an internet connection to function which is pretty stupid imo. Secondly, holy balls it is quick. 0-60 pushes you back into the chair so hard, and it just keeps going. Even when cruising at 60 mph you can pull overtaking manoeuvres in an instant. All in all though, it is a really lovely car. I am very much looking forward to other companies getting their higher performance EV's on the road.
One thing that bothers me about tesla is that theyre a bit like ea just for cars. For example alot of the stuff wich they said will come for the model 3 isnt available at first and the rest costs extra like every model 3 will go 500km now they say you need to pay extra for it. Also they said theyll have an autopilot wich isnt available and comes later. EA does it the same way alot of the stuff they promised upfront is either a dlc or not available at start
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I think it's better to think of Tesla as an early-access car. Things like autopilot are still in development, and Musk has always said not everything will be available at the start, and he didn't say what would be standard and what would be optional. They've really had to stretch to get the price down as far as they have, and it's actually a very affordable car compared to it's direct competition. I get the impression a lot of people misunderstood what "affordable" meant in this case. Some people expected it to have all the same features as a Model S but smaller, despite it always being marketed as a lower-tier car, and some people expected it to be a cheap economy car and are surprised that it's not. Every other electric car up till now, like the Nissan Leaf, has been a $20,000 hatchback that costs $40,000 just because it's electric. The point is that the Model 3 is an electric car that's priced the same as its gas-powered competition. The thing is that the competition isn't the Model S, or the Nissan Leaf, or Chevy Bolt, it's entry-level luxury cars like the BMW 3-Series, and it's priced accordingly.
The autopilot, thats scummy, all model 3's have the hardware, but theres 2 upgrades totalling 8000 dollars to get it active? Like wtf? But the range. Thats a physically different battery pack, physically larger. Its logical that it costs more, same way its logical the turbo engine in a car costs more than the non turbo. --- Post updated --- My housemate paid his deposit to get on the waiting list when the waiting list first went live. He's basically at the top of it, but mad that the RHD production is being delayed until late 2018/early 2019. He's saving specifically for the model 3. He is a gadget man and a bit of a car person. To him, this is the perfect crossing of worlds, and the only drive he makes longer than tesla range has a supercharger en route near a restaurant he likes. Perfect pit stop. 30 minutes of charging is 170 miles of range in the S, probably similar in the 3
I agree the autopilot is weird, but it could be that it's the only way they could get the price down. They knew they had to fit it to every car, but also knew that they couldn't keep their $35,000 promise if it was a standard feature, so they took the chance and bet on most people choosing to pay for it. The base model still has the basic autopilot currently available, just not the enhanced autopilot that's not out yet. PS: Just to clarify, I'm not a blind Elon Musk fanboy. Like I said, I do think it's odd to charge that much for software when the hardware is already in place, but I can kind of see why they'd have to do it that way. EDIT: Actually, enhanced autopilot costs extra on the S and X as well. I guess it does seem a bit scummy. On the other hand, it's not really anything new. Manufacturers have been de-tuning engines and charging thousands more for the "faster" version for years. Not that I support the idea, but I don't think it's any worse than what other car companies are doing, let alone tech companies. A Model 3 with autopilot is still on-par or cheaper than the competition, and they don't have autopilot.
The main problem I see with the model 3 is how crazy bare bones it is, its like a base model with a screen in the middle. You don't even get dedicated speedometer, instead its just awkwardly thrown into one corner of the screen. Interior looks like a prototype still really. Would have expected alot more from a car that costs as much as it does. The model S looks like a much better car at least imo.
At the risk of sounding like an utter douchebag, I would argue that it's "minimalist" rather than cheap or under-equipped. It still has all the features one would expect from a car in this price range, just not in a conventional layout. I quite like how it looks.
As far as i worked out its still a bit more expensive than a equally equiped e series and a lot more expensive than a equally equiped skoda but the model 3 is a lot faster but how often do you use a 3 sek 0-60 also where i live the liter petrol costs 1.26 euros wich is rather cheap and my car uses around 7 liters wich isnt much also i wonder how much the charging will cost on the tesla auperchargers
Must be where you live. Here, the E-Class starts at $61,000 and the C-Class starts at $44,000. My government offers a $5,000 rebate for zero-emissions vehicles, so a Model 3 can be had for $30,000. Plus, Superchargers are completely free for the foreseeable future.
At the moment, it's free to supercharge on their chargers. 55kwh battery in base model, 75 in long range model, one 1kwh of electricity is 12 pence, though you do have to put in about 30% more power than you'll get out. So 97.5 for the big battery. At 12 pence per kilowatt hour, that's £11.70 to fully charge on a home electricity supply. Off that you get 310 miles of driving. That is actually beyond the range of my gasoline tank, or at least on the edge of, one full tank costs me £70. It's also free for me to charge at work. It's also not a 3 second 0-60. The S is. The 3 is in the 5 second ballpark, though that's still quick. 5.1 on long range model, 5.6 on standard. --- Post updated --- I'm also apparently the only one that doesn't think interior looks cheap, or at least you guys have odd minds if it has to be covered in buttons to look expensive. It's minimalist and I don't like it, but it's not cheap. --- Post updated --- the S is supposed to be the better car...
We too get that 5000 euros of of an electric car but you probably wont get any money of the price of the model 3 itself. For example on a new skoda superb wich is a bigger car optioned like mine i got 20 percent of thats 40k but my car has the biggest engine and everything in it except a sunshine roof and a tow hitch. Then the kwh here costs 23 cents wich is double of what you have here and you have to wait alot longer to ge it charged. Also i have a range of 650 km (I could still get a 100km if i would want to drive it completly empty) and filling it up completly costs between 60 €(If i fill it up in the czech republic which isnt to far away) or 80€ if i fill it up when the petrol is cheap here. i also have to drive alot with my car wich means i would have to use public charging stations wich can depending if you can find a tesla charger or not up to 40€ here sometimes. Then the only supercharger i know of is in the next big town witch is 20km away from me and nowhere near where i work. Also alot of stuff i would want in a new car costs extra on the model 3 wich is already in the 40k of my superb so all in all its no car that would work for me. Also one last thing if its cold the tesla wont do the 500km wich they promise.
You really like "Meh" don't you ? Do any one have an Idea of how much paint is needed to paint the exterior of a VW Golf 2?
I get that, its much more expensive than the model 3 so that figures, but I would expect alot more from the model 3 considering its basically BMW money. As "minimalist" as it might be adding inconvenience to the driver by removing basic buttons and the speedometer down onto a screen which you have to look down and the side to even see, is pretty dumb.
Am I the only one that likes the minimal interior? The one with the wooden trim looks especially nice. I definitely don't like the lack of an actual dashboard though.. I was somewhat surprised that there isn't an HUD, as I feel it would suit the car perfectly, and would also solve the speedometer issue for the most part.
Yeah, I don't mind the design at all, think it looks quite nice really, but looks sort of hacked together with the way the screen is mounted and its pretty inconvenient having everything done on a touchscreen in the center like that.
