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How many cars can your pc handle at once?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by JDMClark, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. Cardinal799

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    Okay, sorry for multi posting, but if two workers stop within a minute, is that bad?

    Okay, testing at lower OC, and I am only testing 4 cores. Gotten through 4 tests so far, so thats something I guess.
     
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  2. xypex982

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    What amount of voltage do you have going to the cpu? I got to 4ghz with all cores enabled and I believe I have a bit of a weak chip. By that I mean it takes a lot of voltage compared to others to get 4ghz stable. Are you making sure your ram isn't the culprit of your instability?

    As others have said if you want true stability do a 24 hour prime 95 torture test and memtest (tests your memory stability). I have done that with all three rigs I have had and overclocked (Athlon 64 3700+, Pentium E2140, and my current rig) with no stability problems.

    Does anyone who knows power supplies better than me know if his 550w with a single 30a rail is enough to provide stable power?
     
  3. Cardinal799

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    I have seen the RAM go up to 2.3GB at most. Yes, I will get another stick soon. I am at test 10, and one core is down. Do I down the clock, or do I up the voltage when it crashes?

    As I wrote that, the self test 640K finished with the three cores. Someone who can do Skype messaging during this may help. My name is the same on there.
     
  4. xypex982

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    I didn't mean how much ram you are using I meant is it stable. As you overclock a cpu the ram can also be overclocked (as in ran at a higher speed) without the users intent to do so because of a correlation between the ram and cpu speeds that I will not get in to here. Thus without being paid attention to the ram can be overclocking to instability and make the user believe the cpu is the culprit.

    Literally the guide I read over and over prior to getting my chip and it got me to 4ghz. PLEASE stop for a bit and read it over a few times it contains the tools you need to reach the overclocking kingdom.

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyt...caling-charts-max-ocs-ln2-results-coming.html
     
  5. Cardinal799

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    Oh okay! Should I get hwinfo up for temps too? If it crashes again, I will try the RAM and OC it too.
     
  6. xypex982

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    Please just stop now....I am NOT suggesting you overclock the ram. You are still chasing cpu stability and if you overclock the ram right now you are adding another variable in to the stability equation.

    With my previous statement I meant look at what speed the ram is running at because WITHOUT knowing you COULD be overclocking the ram of which you DO NOT want while chasing cpu stability.

    Just stop prime 95 and memtest and read that article a few times, then revert back to stock bios settings, and lastly reembark on cpu overclocking.


    I don't mean to sound harsh as I have been where you have years ago, wanting more power for free. It took a fair amount of reading before I started to plunge in to it. Not knowing what vcore, vdroop, memory dividers, how to test for stability etc is not going to facilitate a good overclock. However after having done the research I made my Athlon 64 3700+ equal the speed of the then currently fastest cpu in the world (athlon fx-57), and then made a $70 new Intel cpu DOUBLE its speed with perfect stability all the while overclocking my gpu and ram as well.
     
  7. Cardinal799

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    I am not going to OC the RAM yet. I have only increased the voltage on the CPU by 0.2v any time (essentially one setting).

    No more cores have dropped, and I am on around test 34. I am very cautious with stuff like this. (also, does it help that my CPU has "Bulldozer"?)

    If I can just get my computer to run Beam at around 35-40 FPS on a map like Dry Rock (I can remove some trees) and I get about 30 now, so it's not going to be a huge increase.

    If Prime is running fine right now, do i have to stop it? I am reading through the guide for now, while I am checking up on this thread.
    I won't be crazy with this, just as long as I can get a mild-ish boost on BeamNG and not crash. I am completely fine on just about any other game I have on it, and I should probably thank my experience with toaster performance, or else I would be a LOT more power hungry. Honestly, I am super glad that I can run the games I had on my Xbox on here, with high graphics, and more than 25 FPS. I will continue to test this for another 1-1.5 hours, and then I will be fine for now. I will test a lot more when I have a lot more time.
     
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  8. xypex982

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    The ram gets overclocked unless you change the divider you are running on, another one of the MANY things that could contribute to instability that you can learn about from this informative OC guide made for our cpus.

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyt...caling-charts-max-ocs-ln2-results-coming.html

    Yes you should ALWAYS be monitoring your temps while stress testing.

    I don't mind answering questions in the slightest but these are leading me to believe you should stop NOW and read FIRST. If any cores drop you are not stable.
     
  9. Cardinal799

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    I will not continue to increase anything until I know more. From what it looks like, I don't need to increase anything else anyways for now, and yes, you have full permission to be straightforward with me. I don't want you to not tell me something that you feel should be told. I am your student.
     
  10. xypex982

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    You can easily hit my speed after hitting that article a few times. After having read it just revert all bios setting to stock, open the article on your phone so you can look at it while messing about in bios. I assure you it isn't very hard although it can be a bit overwhelming. I was overclocking my Athlon 64 3700+ back in 8th grade while not in a sober state so it isn't that bad. :eek:

    My quick fire testing goes like this:

    Small increase in CPU speed
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    Make sure temp monitoring software is running
    Run OCCT 30 min test

    Once I fail I then start messing with dividers, voltages etc to find stability and repeat the process. Once I am limited by either Temp or voltages I back off a smidge of CPU speed and then do an overnight Prime 95. Honestly I haven't done a full 24 hours of prime 95 and thus I don't consider it 100% stable but with having had it run for 15 hours I am confident enough in it and have never had a BSOD.


    After all that work then we can talk about ram OCing and graphics card overclocking.
     
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  11. Cardinal799

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    I know. I won't do that for this; that is for other things that won't lead to disaster if not done right.

    And, damn. I will just go to 3.4GHz (0.1 above factory) and deal with it for now because it crashed when I tried to load up the temps.

    Okay, set to 3.4GHz, autoed voltages, and only thing I didn't change was the smart fan control thing. I assume it is better to have the fan on high all the time?
     
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    Auto voltages is never used by people seeking decent stability with anything more than mild overclocks. I keep all my fans on at 100% all the time and have never had one die, nor do I give two craps about the small sound increase.
     
  13. Cardinal799

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    I have been told from Bubble that my card will be fine for a while.

    I assume I should also make sure to be able to understand what you said in that post before I start getting into it?
     
  14. xypex982

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    Yea hold off on the GPU oc for now. It is actually much easier than CPU/Ram overclocking IMO. I always found it to give the best FPS improvements as most games are GPU dependant.
     
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    All of the stock vehicles (not ai enabled) on low settings with 2.4 intel duo and 4gb shared ram (integrated graphics)
     
  16. Cardinal799

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    Okay, set voltages to just a setting higher than what it was autoed at (1.45v) and I bookmarked the guide. Also, adblocker has 75 ads AND COUNTING on the site lol.
    Should I run a short Prime test?
     
  17. xypex982

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    Yes a short prime test (30 min) is in order right now. I know it is going to be tedious and take a while to do it this way, but that is why it is the right way.

    WAIT WAIT WAIT, WHAT 1.45V!!! No!!! AGAIN THE ARTICLE CLEARLY STATES THAT IS THE LIMIT ON AIR STOP STOP STOP

    You shouldn't have to be NEAR that level of voltage with a mere 200mhz overclock.
     
  18. Cardinal799

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    Man, then the computer must be stupid in auto. I haven't ran the test yet. I will go change it again.
    What should I set it at?

    Edit: Dafuq computer:
    I can only set it down to 1.4250V???? Wut.
    Do I use the minus button for situations such as this? Also, I will not exit out of BIOS/ run a test until you are sure I can from now on. Okay? I don't want to wreak anything.
     
  19. Bubbleawsome

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    Holy crap. I have no idea what happened. I'll look around and come back.
     
  20. xypex982

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    Disable all Power saving features
    Disable "Turbo"
    Set LLC to "High"

    Set it to 1.35v to start. Fair amount of overclockers were saying they hit 4ghz with between 1.3-1.35v, of which is the stock setting for the CPU.
     
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