Looks like some internal parts were hit. You might have a busted brake resovoir and possibly if you have a set, a damaged engine strut bar. That headlight might not be able to function if you replace the parts on the outside, like the hood, the front right fender and bumper. IF the engine is hit, you'd have to replace the engine. Now this is only if you really really really want to keep this lil guy, which I'd do as well to save my Accent if I had to. The fender if this is a 2000's impala would be about £290 and a new engine, heck, that'd be quite high but I don't know. This is from my knowledge, and it's good to get advice from a professional. Hope you fix him up soon
You could possibly buy a flood damaged Cruze, same color and all, take it apart, and fix the other Cruze with that.
Welp... She got towed away. Off to a repair shop. With my insurance,I'll pay 1,000... Shes gonna be back soon! No leaks,luckily though.
Gonna flex on everyone here. Pretty much everything not quoted is correct. Hard to tell without stripping the car, but I'm guessing in excess of 8k USD, by Australian part prices and labour rates. Wrong, bonnets are weak AF and can be bent by hand. They crumple at designated points (visible as flattened sections on the bonnet frame) so as not to jack up on the hinges and penetrate things in a collision. The headlamp panel, radiator support, and probably everything behind it took the impact here. Technically correct, but the A/C system at the very front only consists of the condensor, drier, and misc piping. Cheap stuff. Compressor and labour to access evaporator usually is expensive, neither of which are required. No such thing as exact same colour when it comes to paint. Factory colour variation, wear through weathering, previous refinishing affect paint lustre, tone, saturation, and for metallics/pearls, flake texture. Wrong, conventional auto paint is definitely not a complex multilayer magic. At most, there will be 6 layers, three of which are the metal itself, the galvanic/zinc layer on top of that, and primer. Most paint jobs involve just scuffing the primer, laying down base, then applying clear. Literally every collision repairer will be spraying by hand, and a good painter will spray a job comparable, if not, better than that of a robot. I've laid factory quality COB jobs for my MX5 by rattlecan in my garage ffs. Conjecture is more harmful that keeping quiet. Like that's an LHD car, which means the brake fluid reservoir won't even be on the damaged side :/ Towed to the repairer to be repaired, or quoted to be repaired/totalled? In any case, good luck :^) edit: Colour matching pays 0.7 of an hour for metallics. This is paid once per colour per car. Painting a largish front bar in any colour pays 3.5. Call it $50USD an hour to spray metallics. The cost of colour matching is negligible in the overall repair, which will run in the thousands. You can't tell from the images wtf. I will say though the force of the impact appears to be focused in the general area around the R/H top engine mount not the engine itself.
Can you open the hood? It's almost surely totaled but miracles can happen - especially if you don't bother with paint-matching. Edit - nvm judging by the pictures the engine/drivetrain is almost surely damaged beyond what is worth repairing.
My point wasn't that respraying is impossible, nor was it that robots are better than humans, it was that doing a good job will cost too much money. Joe Schmoe in his garage is never going to make this car look like new. You may be a rattlecan master, but not everyone is (I have trouble believing your MX-5 is factory quality anyway).
That sounds like conjecture :^) A decade's worth of wear does make a difference, especially when every example of this car in this colour is exposed to different conditions, different times spent in the sun, and different times spent in the shade. Ever taken a look under a car bra that's been on for even a year, or debadged a car? Colour underneath is completely different. Why are you talking about Joe Schmoe doing backyard paint jobs? This is an insurance job, where the car will be taken to a reputable collision repairer, and repaired and refinished by professional tradesmen. The number of hours and hourly rate to paint is set by industry standard, which in Australia is about $50USD per hour. This means a door pays 2.6 hours to paint, set by industry, and pays $50USD per hour, also set by industry. 50*2.6 gives you $130 in labour to paint the door. THIS IS INDUSTRY STANDARD. This is what the insurance company will pay for paint labour for a front door in every shop in the country. With insurance jobs, there is no paying "too much" or "too little". The shop that paints the car will get $130 for the labour to paint the door no matter how perfect or shite the paint job is. Again, with insurance jobs, a good paint job does NOT carry a premium over a bad one. And why wouldn't Joe Schmoe refinish a car nicely? Painting can be self-taught. All you need is knowledge, an air compressor, and a paint gun! Next!
But it's not like one car spend its whole life under the desert sun and another one was kept in a completely dark basement since manufacturing date. Two less than decade old cars from roughly the same region are unlikely to have great difference in color.
Did you even read my post? Or the one before where I mentioned that there are literally paint variances in cars of the same colour from factory? Also, cheeky edit m8 Was that a personal jab? I can paint with cans and a gun. I have nothing to hide; being a functional member of society with actual skills is neato.
Go order a touch up paint pen or pot in the colour code your car uses. If it's a 100% match I'll literally PayPal you $100.
Yes, but applications of a paint mixture - even of the same sample - can't be perfectly identical. Multiple factors can infuence the final result. That's why professionals usually repaint the whole part, and often adjacent panels, too, to produce the most uniform effect possible.
You came in here all high and mighty telling everyone one by one how they are wrong and you are right. Maybe that wasn't your intent, but it isn't coming across well.
That was my intent, because you are wrong and spreading misinformation like this forum is notorious for, and I am right. Let me spell this out for you in the absolute simplest way possible. Even after I very nicely addressed your point in the post directly after yours which you obviously either didn't read or understand, what you fail to realise is that the premise of your entire argument is wrong. Not only do insurance jobs pay the same for paint no matter how good the paint job is, the cost to repair this car far outweighs the cost of painting it. Your narrow view and knowledge of collision repair zoomed in and pinpointed its laser sight on an aspect that isn't even relevant to your argument. Cars aren't totalled because painting it is too expensive, otherwise new cars would be totalled left and right from being keyed. Paint is very easily estimated, in both labour and materials. It's very black and white; any repaired or new panels get painted, and any adjacent panels get blended if it's a metallic or pearlescent colour. A thousand or so in paint is common for accident cars like this. Repairing it is a different ballgame. The shop needs to charge part removal and reassembly for parts that restrict access to further damaged areas of the car. Just removing a front bumper bar might pay $150+. Further, the shop needs to charge repair times, as in actual metalwork. This involves panelbeating, doorskin removal and replacement, rear quarter panel drill out and weld in, windscreen removal, frame pulling, engine out, and other work. This takes a lot of time, and as such, pays a lot more than paint. What totals a lot of cars though is parts. Front bumper might be $600. A headlamp might be $4000. Hood might be $900. Doorshell might be $800. Front fender might be $300. I recently quoted a VW Transporter where the oil cooler was cracked. That was over $2000 for the cooler alone. The parts *just parts* total was in excess of $12000 by the time the van was done. Insurance companies generally do not allow the use of aftermarket or remanufactured parts which are cheaper options but are often not ADR, DOT, TÜV, etc approved. Used and refurbished genuine parts are not always an option, especially with older import cars. Not only do body panels contribute to the repair total, random bits like air intakes, ECUs, headlights, exhaust manifolds, trim bits, glass, etc quickly ramp up the total, and as soon as the quote price creeps too close to the market value of the car, the insurance company will happily total it and pay out the sum instead of repairing it. Note how little paint costs in comparison to everything else you've conveniently ignored to make your very misguided point. tl;dr paint means almost nothing to the repair total and you have everything backwards and upside down now get off your high horse and pull your head out of your arse because your last post had nothing to do with the topic at hand and was a pointless comment about my netiquette
I'm not going to turn this into another thread explosion. You are right, I just don't think you read my initial comment in the right context and came across as a jerk. I jabbed back and probably came across as a jerk too, but now you're freaking out so I'm just going to throw my hands up and leave this where it is.
Launching into an essay by saying you're going to dumb things down for me and concluding by telling me to get my head out of my arse isn't going to make me think you're not an asshole. My comment stating most of the cost was paint was a direct response to someone talking about getting salvaged body panels and assuming no mechanical damage. Insurance hadn't even been brought up yet at that point. I know buying all new parts would be expensive and I know insurance covers the paint, but you took it to mean I thought paint was to most difficult and expensive part of any repair, which isn't what I think, nor what I said.
You say I'm wrong and then proceed to say exactly what I stated? No wonder so many users are leaving this place. People like you feel the need to try and respond to everyone pointlessly and hope to start an argument.
