General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    RE: Diesel bans. It's annoying, but the problem is diesel passenger cars ever being a thing in the first place. ESPECIALLY when the rules were set to make them artificially attractive, as they were in France at one point. Everyone, including governments, went gaga over them because fuel economy, only for us to wake up one morning and realize that running out of oil is no longer the problem - now it's diesel fumes causing air quality & health issues in the cities. That's what happens when the government thinks it knows best I guess.
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    Open differentials should have been outlawed a long time ago. It should take more than a 3mm ice "hill" to render a car completely immobile. Speaking of, where's my one-way ticket to Maui?
     
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  2. skodakenner

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    On a diffrent note why dont strap some small wind turbines on it as it might get engough power to start from the solar panels and the rest from the wind turbines as its moving and the wind would hit it probably wont work but hey worth a try
     
  3. nosraenyr kcirtap kcin

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    Yeah, like 4 months ago.
     
  4. Ytrewq

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    Wind turbines on top of a moving vehicle won't make sense since they will greatly increase drag coefficient, increasing the amount of energy needed to power the vehicle as well.
     
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    yeah missed the point here :p but I'm saying that where there are multiple generators instead of big ones the losses are higher. Hence why we have a power network and no personal power stations :p (and maintenance etc). But for solar you want to cover as much area under the sun as possible. But I think vehicle solar is too costly to do properly.
     
  6. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Regulations have to change when scientific knowledge and society do.
     
  7. skodakenner

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    And if theyre intgrated into the body like tubes?
     
  8. Hatorade

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    It'd still change the general drag coefficient and end up using the power it would create. Look at how hypermilers tape or cover all of the gaps they can and make the car have a lesser drag coefficient, creating tubes with turbines not only adds more drag but would probably use more energy than it can produce on the vehicle
     
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  9. Capkirk

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    The laws of thermodynamics are what's stopping you. You can't get lossless power conversion, and trying to power a bus with its own movement will always result in a net power loss. It's like trying to power a motor with a generator connected to itself.
     
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  10. General S'mores

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    Damn, is this one hell of an Audi! It's really good in design, it reminds me of the RS4/S4 Sedan.
     
  11. Hatorade

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  13. General S'mores

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    Any thoughts for an Morris 1100?
     
  14. mms

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    Can rally A0D75E6E-D6AD-482B-B67E-ABD2CA0DEC64.jpeg
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    Can family 2A2BE822-23F1-42A1-B0E8-54C8FC87A877.jpeg so overall, I like it.
     
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    It's a $400 car and if I got, it my first car so it doesn't have to last very long
    if the body rots to pieces I could make a go kart out of it powered by the turbo 4 cylinder:cool::p
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    did some reading and found out the 2.2 turbo I found in lebarons and daytonas made around the same horsepower than the 305 camaro
    that lebaron I posted earlier has the turbo I rated at 146 hp and 160 ft-lb whereas the 305 made 150 hp and around 200 ft-lb
     
  17. Hatorade

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    if the body has rot the frame has it too, and cutting it up and turning it into a full sized "go-kart" is a lot harder than it looks. we have an FC RX-7 at the back shop that's being cut up to do that and has some rot in the frame rails and i doubt its gonna last a season but getting paid to build it is nice
     
  18. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    That's manure. With the situation in France in particular, things would have been better in the end if the government had just left everything alone and allowed markets to take their course. They don't get a pass on the basis of "good intentions" or "the research of the time", because the results still leave a lot of people, specifically the ones who got suckered into buying diesels before everyone realized how much (literal) cancer they puke out, and now also the ones who have older gasoline-powered cars too, out of pocket in a very big way, with a car they can't take into town anymore and will be lucky to sell for a fifth of what they paid for it (especially accounting for inflation and/or including interest for cars bought on loans, not to mention the fact that a lot of people won't be interested in buying their old car thanks to the new regulations). That's the problem with European-style nanny states; power is a force multiplier for stupidity and "we know best" arrogance, and when the chickens come home to roost, someone innocent bystander or group thereof will get left with the bill. When individuals make mistakes, they have to deal with the consequences, when the government makes a mistake, they just soak the little people and then go "Oh don't worry, we've got it right this time for sure!" and probably start the cycle over again, and somehow we're all supposed to just sort of accept that this is a normal part of life? I dare you to come back and double down on that post when widespread adoption of electric cars starts causing massive blackouts and skyrocketing electricity prices because, surprise surprise, it takes a lot more energy to charge a car than it does to charge a phone.
     
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  19. skodakenner

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    My guess that here with electric cars its going to be the same way as with diesels first theyre all super cheap and all and then theyll start taxing it like hell and then they gonna add little chips to say there is a car charging and then the electricity is going to cost alot more just so they can make more money wich they than can put into things we dont need or want to have here
     
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