WIP Beta released Gavril Vendetta 0.8

Said to be one of America's finest creations... Ever.

  1. Lehoskayj(Justin)

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    Hey,
    Nice Mod Creation and i think it will be my Favorite to drive but here are a few Suggestions, Rear Spoiler and a Wide body Kit. Is there a Timeline until it is fully Released?
     
  2. Driv3r1142

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    Wide body won't exactly be coming anytime soon, but it's definitely tickling my fancy. In order to properly do it I'll need to basically re-do the entire mod over again (New body parts, new frame, new suspension,) in order to do it properly.


    A functional spoiler will be the next racing accessory added. As for full release, idk really, only time can tell at this point. The core mod is pretty much fully released, it's the add-on racing stuff and aftermarket parts library that isn't.




    Happy to hear you're enjoying it!
     
  3. Gh05t

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    Awesome mod! The roadsport 423 with all the engine mods is my default car now!
    One thing tho, the race car does not have front racing discs, it has the normal ones. These caused the front brakes to overheat in 1 lap.
    Also, is the 523ci with the stage 3 supercharger made to be blown up? :D
     
  4. Driv3r1142

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    1;Fixing this, thanks for telling me.

    2; Does it? I never can handle driving that thing (Way to much power, even a more experienced driver would probably opt for a lesser supercharger on that engine,) so I don't really know.
     
  5. Gh05t

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    IDK to be honest. Even I can't drive it.
    I gunned the motor in a straight line and it overheated and caught fire and then the tires exploderized:)
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    Ooh one more thing, the steering lock is too less for me to really slide the car.
    Did the C3 have so less lock?
     
  6. Driv3r1142

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    Probably not, idk. I had to lower it quite a bit early on because the steering would cause the suspension to drop.


    I've restored as much of it as I possibly can at this point, though it's not a huge increase.



    I hope to fix it properly in a future update,but for now, idk what exactly to do in order to fix it properly.
     
  7. Gh05t

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    Ooh one more thing, the steering lock is too less for me to con
    Ok. Just makes the car more difficult and rewarding to drive.
    Did they really sell all the different performance parts for the 427/454 (pistons,valves, etc.) in period for the C3? It makes close to 500 bhp with all of them!!
    Sorry to keep bugging you.
     
  8. Loafy

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    Nice to see a vette in here

    Just a couple small things...

    523 Race engine has a higher redline with 4 barrels than anything else...

    Also spews a bunch of black smoke at high rpms... particulates a bit high dunno if you wanted the diesel look? Dented Hood was that a typo? Vented? Cowl induction?

    Really epic though perhaps fine tuning some torque curves is needed as well...
     
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  9. Driv3r1142

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    It's alright, though if you want to keep up the q&a session, I'd encourage you to start a Conversation with me so that neither of our posts get deleted by the moderators.

    Maybe not stock, but you could certainly build good performing engines in that time period.


    I had atv_123 do the engine tunings, since, lets be honest, While I can put the stuff together, I don't always have all the knowledge myself to tune things properly. So I asked him to help me with tuning stuff, which included the engines.


    I'm sure you could get the performance parts from the manufacturers back then too... After all, they were, while some from the time might try to deny it, heavily involved in racing. The ones that weren't, didn't survive the 60s and 70s really in one piece, or at all.


    After all, if you won on Sunday, you'd sell on Monday; This is from the time in America where stock car racing and racing in general drove people to buy cars.




    1, 2a and 3; Talk to @atv_123 about that, he tuned the engines.

    2b; That was originally a development name placeholder I must've missed renaming, will fix that in next version. Thank you.
     
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    *wishes he was home to play this mod*

    :(
     
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  11. Driv3r1142

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    :p


    Anyway, first hotfix is submitted and awaiting review.


    I have done a few changes, when the new version is approved by moderation, I will be anticipating your feedback.
     
  12. Danny Werewolf

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    I. Love. This. Mod.

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    Posting this here because I'd rather not clutter up Comm Screens by editing so much.

    I can't say much about this vehicle, its just great...I do simply think about the cluttering of the vehicle list, but that's all I can think about. I'm pretty spoopid, so I don't know much else...
     
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  13. atv_123

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    Well... quite a few things that I guess I need to explain why I did what I did with all the tunings.

    1. 523ci Exploding.

    First off... to help everyone drive this thing... I recommend going into the parts menu and changing the rear wheels to drag slicks... that's just about the only way you can lay the power down that is required on this thing. You can do it on stock tires, but you will only be using about 20% throttle before you break the rear tires loose.

    Now... with the amount of power this thing makes, you can not run this thing at full throttle for very long. It makes as much power as a monster truck, so it will naturally overheat rather quickly. That being said, you can drive it around like a normal car... even a bit aggressively, and it wont overheat. It will actually be perfectly fine... and that's really all I aimed for in that. The amount of heat it produces can barely hold it together with the race radiator in a standing mile... and for a full throttle run... that should be all the further in real life anyone would hold that thing down. It's not a top speed engine... its an acceleration engine. Granted, that being said, you can still get to 250mph before bursting into flames with it... so it's got top speed as well.

    2. Steering Lock

    Corvettes actually have a pretty terrible steering lock. They used rather wide tires and rather than beefing up the power steering pump, they just reduced the ratio in the rack. The Vendetta actually has a far better turning circle than my Corvette, because, if I had to choose one thing to hate about it... it would be that. With a normal car, if you drive half the car width off the road before you start turning around, you can just about turn around on a 2 lane road. In my Corvette, I can't turn around on anything less than a 4 lane road with a turning lane in the middle... if it's just a 4 lane, you have to turn it into a 3 point turn... I am serious... its that bad.

    3. 423ci Addon Parts

    Yes, when the 423ci was released... day one it didn't have any extra parts you could add to it. Granted, you give it about a year and Edelbrock and other companies were all over that engine. You could build one rather than buy one.

    That being said, I didn't do those parts with the thought in mind of it being back then. I kinda took the thought approach of it being a restomod aftermarket type thing. So basically, it is some guy with a 423ci that just started flipping through a parts catalog and really going nuts. How nuts is really up to you guys as you can tell. Honestly, some of the parts might not have the most realistic effect, but I was pretty drained from making that. It has 64 possible combinations, which means it has 64 unique torque curves... all of which I calculated for what I was putting into the engine. Is it perfect? No... not at all... is it fun to mess with? Hell yeah.

    4. Other 523ci Bits and Bobs

    The 523ci is a full on race engine. It will have a much higher rev limit just for that reason alone... that being said... if the engine has a lower rev limit where it sustains damage when using a smaller carburetor, then I messed that up. It should run out of power with a smaller carburetor before it ever reaches that mechanical rev limit due to the lack of air and fuel flow. Mechanically, they should be identical, so if I missed that, then yes, that should be adjusted.

    As for the exhaust... I did that on purpose. In racing and high power applications, it is common practice to run your fuel mixture rather rich. This reduces your chances of pre detonation (knock) by lowering internal cylinder temperatures and allows for much more potential power to be made from a forced induction motor. Without the supercharger... your right... it probably doesn't need to be that heavy... but with the superchargers (especially stage 3) on an old carbureted car that wouldn't have been the most efficient at burning all its fuel anyways, I would say its rather realistic...



    With the power this thing is making in an old carbureted engine... I would say the smoke (on some of them anyways) is justified... on the lower tunes of the engine... I would agree, it could be calmed down a bit.
     
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  14. 0rangeGhost

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    looks awesome. but here some things that i wish to be improved:
    - when bodyparts being deformed they become invisible, like plastic bumpers on other cars. looks a bit weird
    - i don't know how it's on real car, but i thing front wings and bumper should be separated and be a bit stronger, so it won't jump off the car after a small hit
    - center the camera
     
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  15. LeSpecialist01

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    hi you should add a rev limiter option, cuzz its ez to damage the engine. :)
     
  16. Billydabomb

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    I haven't had a problem with losing control just yet, the race config if anything crashed without me wanting to twice.
     
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  17. Gh05t

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    Thanks for the clarification!
     
  18. Veyron730

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    Right blinker is slightly offset
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  19. Octothorp Obelus

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  20. firelover

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    Good car :)
     
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