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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by tdev, Jan 2, 2018.

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  1. Nadeox1

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    Creating drama about post profiles won't get them back (pretty much nothing would, it's a taken a pretty much permanent decision).
    Starting and fueling drama would just help getting a ban. "Forewarned is forearmed".


    The forum changes, the rules constantly getting updated are being done exactly for this, not for boredom.
    We have made some rules stricter than before, aiming to discourage people from doing things that would cause problems.

    Also please understand our view-point. Not all problems are immediate solvable. For example when somebody is being salty, that's borderline: too little for a warning even, so at best a post deletion (with notification though).
    Said that, the new report system introduced allows us to better keep track of user's behavior. That means we can better know if a user is being problematic, when he is getting repeatedly reported

    So yeah, we will see how it goes with these new changes.
    You guys (generally speaking**) also need to do your part as well.


    I replied you to another thread already with exhaustive enough answer already, not sure why you are bringing this on again.
    This post pretty much sums it up:
    You are not seeing the majority of the stuff, as they are being removed almost immediately.
    All that work being invisible, doesn't allow you to actually understand if it's effective or not.

    Please understand that we are not robots, and in front of a monitor 24/7.
    Believe it or not, we also sleep, or do other stuff meanwhile.
    If something goes through, it's very likely because of the things above.
    That stuff that goes through is still temporary, until a moderator gets on and deal with it.

    That happened because 5 pages of that idiotic drama went on.
    Understand that if you reply to something, that's going to start a chain reaction and a bigger discussion.
    We repeat to ignore that stuff, as ignoring it would avoid it to grow. Reporting it so that it goes into our attention and we can deal with that.
    If you do not any of those, it will grow, we won't notice and stuff goes bad.

    That's not a problem just here, but everywhere on the internet in the last years.
    More accessible internet > More people that do not know about stuff like netiquette and kids..


    Anyhow, please let's not spam too much into this thread.
    60% of the stuff in here is just being repeated over and over.
     
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  2. RobertGracie

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    That is really scary and dangerous, that bully must have done a right psychological number on that girl the previous year and gotten away with it....thats messed up as well....
     
  3. TWilliams458

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    And whats even scarier is my Auntys friend lived in the same area as this chick and heard the girls mother screaming when she found her daughter dead. Truly horrible and sad. Feel sorry for her family and close friends. If someone sent a message that toxic to me I would put it everywhere and let people know how horrible this person was.
     
  4. MisterKenneth

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    Ouch. :eek:

    For that last bit, it varies. Some people can get it from poor household environments, while others just simply do not care, and who knows how many other reasons for it exists.
     
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  5. opkraut

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    It depends on the issue. Troll accounts and spam threads can't be stopped before they happen unless you make it so messages need to be reviewed first.

    However, in the case of the community screenshots argument from a few nights ago, there were some signs that this could happen. For example, people had been making comments on the quality of the mod since the person started it and there were clearly people already taking sides from the beginning. Without placing blame on anyone, both sides of the fight were responsible for how it escalated, whether it was refusal to listen to more experienced modders or being harsh with criticism.
    I wouldn't call what happened bullying - it was a large difference of opinions that got taken too personally. There weren't any personal insults from what I can recall, but there was some mean criticism of the mod that I'm sure was misunderstood as a personal attack.
     
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  6. mms

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    The worst bullies are the ones that bully you psychologically.
     
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  7. TWilliams458

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    Yeah someone I knew actually saw the messages because this anti bullying advocate came to her school and talked to students. She saw the messages. From what I heard, they sounded foul. I won't go on about it anymore as I don't want to annoy the admins but just know, that if you're bullied, you're not alone. Talk to someone about it and get support.
     
  8. RobertGracie

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    I know what thats like I talked to a friend of mine and somehow her left arm got snapped in two and she killed herself and a day later her ex wife screamed at me and said I did it but I had nothing to do with it, she must have upset someone seriously enough and I talked to her months later and found out the brother had said to her to do that to me because he was a real psycho along with his sister....the last thing I heard about them was they are both pushing up daisies now and their father is a changed man....
     
  9. Dummiesman

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    As far as the recent forum changes go, I like the new icons, and organization. It looks more professional and is much cleaner. The newly subset of reactions is nice as well, and looks like it will prevent random reaction spam that used to happen. (e.g. "FUNNY" on posts that were quite the contrary)

    Although I do agree it'd still be nice to have profile posts.
     
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  10. RobertGracie

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    I should know people did it to me at school I didnt bring it up with them and well a few years ago I was psychologically bullied by some idiot in Australia and well about 3 years after that I had my revenge on the person I gave them a new life and Identity and they are happily married with kids and a family and a job now, that event made me a harder less foolish person, I am not that easily fooled I have a hard edge because of it and it makes me a bit unpredictable, I let that happen to me once in 2015 and believe me....never again....I will never let the anger control me again, all I did was talk to a friend and told her how angry I was with her and her weak exucses for saying she forgot about me, I had been informed months before she was manipulated all her life and I gave her a severe telling off and that night she killed herself and I have to live with the memory of what happened that was not linked to me in any way...its oddly something I regret not spotting the fact there was another person in the room with her and she said "Whos that with glowing eyes" and thats when I went to bed....
     
  11. tdev

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    Ok, stronger moderation then. Let me start.



    /done
     
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  12. Nadeox1

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    We modernized the chat page with a newer IRC Client (KiwiIRC)



    EDIT: Re-opened. You know the rules.
    To make it crystal clear, turning this thread into more drama (either cause or fuel/join it) will grant you a ban.
     
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  13. Stynger

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    So the profile posts are not coming back, but maybe we could make a status at least?
     
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  14. Spiicy

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    Yeah a status would be nice to have, but it wont happen =\
     
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  15. TheDiamondLord8

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    This thread right now is getting a little off topic I think. I find it both good and bad that profile posts are gone, but hey, they're gone, it's permanent, move on. I don't think any more discussion on profile posts is needed.
     
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  16. Nathan24™

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    Can we at least have status updates?
     
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  17. MisterKenneth

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    Without the ability for people to comment on it.

    I don't see anything wrong with that. I'd at least settle for that.
     
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  18. Cheekqo

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    Still say'd that's too far, how about you have a little topic page on your own profile where people can ask questions and other things like that.
    It'd be restricted to members who've been here for more than a month though, because of spammers, ivan lochcov and other things.
     
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  19. Nadeox1

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    You got about 10 or 20 pages about statuses/profiles posts, I think it is pretty clear by now?
    We already said they are not coming back (and even if, it would be the last thing ever to).

    Most of the time it's the user who have been longer here that used that inappropriately, to spam or insult others.

    So yeah, no thanks despite how much discussions about it. That's an already sealed box.



    If you want to know if these changes helped: Yes they did.
    The amount of bad stuff in here got a good cut overall.
    It's a much better situation that was some months ago. Still not perfect, a few things and users to sort out, but it's being done :)
     
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  20. Blijo

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    Is the featured resource broken? I thought you added new high-profile mods to that?

    Overall, I like the changes. Only thing I don't like/what hasn't changed is the amount of "stupid" one word/one line comments by a group of users.
     
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