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Gavril T75

Discussion in 'Official Content' started by gabester, Sep 11, 2013.

  1. TechnicolorDalek

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    Ah, but you notice he says "assuming tire grip is the limiting factor" which it really isn't when you have a loaded trailer.
     
  2. rsb0204

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    here we go again, ok grip is the limiting factor when unloaded. you simply don't have enough grip to stop the wheels from locking. most of your weight when unloaded is on your FRONT axle. your front axle has 2 brake drums. if you add weight EVENLY throughout the whole vehicle the stoping didtance (in theory) would neither increase or decrease until the point that the vehicle was simply overloaded. BUT if you were to put the weight in a different location (front or rear) of the vehicle then the extra traction gained from weight on the tires could decrease (or increase!) stopping distance if applied correctly. say if you were to apply 10,000lbs to the FRONT of this truck, the rear brakes would still skid as if it were unloaded and the truck would (for the most part) be relying soaly on the front 2 brakes to stop it. as such the stopping distance would increase. however if you were to apply the same ammout of weight to the REAR of the truck the added weight would be increasing the traction of the 8 rear wheels with their 4 rear brakes. the steer tires of an unloaded bobtail are not likely to skid, and with the 8 rear tires also not skidding stoping distance can be lowered. also as I said before, when you latch onto a trailer you have 4 more brakes on it and that dosent hurt stopping distance either.
     
  3. DarthCain

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    Is it possible, or going to be possible to blow an air bag on the suspension when you load it too heavy like the real ones? Not really something you'd want to experience in real life while driving, but I'd be nice to try to try and control the truck when it blows as you're driving down the road.
     
  4. TechnicolorDalek

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    But you must remember... e=mc^2

    *THIS IS PURE SPECULATION ON MY PART AND I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT ACTUALLY WORKS THIS WAY*

    So say that mass, m, is the weight of the vehicle. American semi trucks typically weigh 25,000 to 40,000 pounds. A semi truck + trailer is usually somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 pounds. Therefore, according to e=mc^2, a loaded truck will have more energy that needs to be dissipated in order for it to stop. At this weight, friction between the tires and the road surface are not a limiting factor. The efficiency of your brakes are. Your forward momentum, when being culled by a brake, will generate heat as the brake pad rubs against the brake disk. That friction and heat is the dissipation of your energy, or forward momentum. As stated before, a loaded truck has much more potential energy than an unloaded one, so it will take longer to stop than an unloaded truck. Yes, brakes on trailers do make a difference. But, no, they do not magically take all the added energy away.

    *THIS HAS BEEN MY SPECULATION AND ATTEMPT AT EXPLAINING THIS PHENOMENON*

    Now... before you rage. My dad was a trucker. I've played trucking games all my life. You ALWAYS take longer to stop with a trailer. Even in my explanation is incorrect, the fact is that you take longer to stop the heavier you get. Just as a fat man is slow to start and stop moving, a loaded truck takes longer to get going and to stop.
     
  5. rsb0204

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    ummm, no. I don't think anything you just said was right. first an American truck typically weighs about 15,000 lbs, and a tractor trailer combo is 25,000 to 80,000 lbs. 80,000 is all you can legally carry (ive got tickets to prove it!). 2nd you do not ALWASE take longer to stop with a trailer, example: you have an empty trailer, you have 4 more breaks, and your truck is not loaded hevaly enough to put strain on the brakes. in a truck that is lightly loaded you WILL stop in less distance than bobtail period. however if you overload a truck then yes it will take longer (as it should) to stop. you can play your trucking games, I am a trucker.
     
  6. DapperGent

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    I guess you don't know about 3, 4, 7, 8 axle trailers and tri axle trucks.
    We have two trucks rated for 130,000 3 axle trailers.
    A company near here runs all 8 axle trailers, I don't know their weight rating, but it's 150 or 180,000.
    Not to mention all the log trucks with loads of axles.
    Let me guess, you work for Swift?
     
  7. B25Mitch

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    I believe the formula you are searching for is KE = 0.5 * mv^2. Mass-energy equivalence is not particularly relevant here.
     
  8. rsb0204

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    those are a different matter, he was referring to a TYPICAL tractor trailer combo. the most common combo is a 3 axle truck (including steers) and a 2 axle trailer. but yes other variations exist and I never said that 80,000lbs was the biggest load on the road, I just said it was the typical max weight. you can carry pretty much anything you want if you have the right permits. and no I work for KLLM actually.

    Swift lol, Send. Wrecker. I. Flipped. Truck.
     
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  9. speednsnake

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    All is quiet on the western front.
     
  10. TheFastRacer

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    Gabester, do you have any news on the truck? Is interior added already? Please keep us up-to-date!
     
  11. Potato

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    I think somewhere he said he was doing some other "contract" work or whatever you call it. Not sure if that's right, but I think that's why we haven;t had any vehicle updates lately.
     
  12. vmlinuz

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    Can we please haz finished/up to date pics? Interior? Thanks!
     
  13. rutuu92

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    Wanna crash that. WANNA CRASH THAT NAO!!!!!!!
     
  14. Mopower77

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    not totally no... I know this is an old reply, but with that assumption, you're saying that you have less grip when you're accelerating too? Does that make sense to you? you put 20k-40k lbs on the ass end of a truck where you have 8 tires. Obviously suspension plays a big roll in determining grip as it isn't just the tires. In a fully loaded truck, which most trucks are your typical 2 axle trailer, you'll see longer stopping distances, but with an average load, which is probably around 40k, or if you're in a dump truck where all the weight is directly on the back tires, you're going to see better grip which means shorter stopping distances.
     
  15. Petrovsky

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    We need a new screenie ;)
     
  16. Mr Kristian

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    Hey Gabster how long time to the race update i really want the ibishu pigeon, gavril T75, the new civetta boldie and the new ibishu covet and the awesome map East Coast USA.:D
     
  17. Davidbc

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    You have to buy the game to get all that.
     
  18. Potato

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    We haven't had any vehicle updates in forever.

    Gaybstur pls.
     
  19. vmlinuz

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    Maybe he's waiting for the update to buy the game. Good choice; I hear great things about it :D
     
  20. archerN

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    I think you could just put two cabster cargo boxes together to make a trailer. :)

    (no idea what blender is.:cool:)
     
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