Who in their right mind wouldn't say the Camaro is a performance car? The alpha platform is incredible in most ways, definitely a competent competitor. As much as I like the mustang's look and sound I'd probably get the V8 Camaro over the V8 'Stang.
Well played. My real issue with GM is the fact that their interior quality is hot garbage. Ford’s isn’t much better though.
To the best of my knowledge the LS series was introduced in 1997, in the C5 Corvette. There's apparently been another version of it since, and now they've moved beyond the LS to the LT. I do. Are you sure about that? I know Chevy did occasionally make engines with "LS" and "LT" codes back in the 1960s and 1970s, but they were variants of the existing small-block and big-block engines. The LS series itself, as far as I know, did not exist until 1997. Furthermore, I'm not sure why any of this matters. At least one version of the old small-block Chevy V8 was massaged by Lotus and given twin-cam heads, and you never would have been able to tell that the basic design was from 1955. It doesn't really matter all that much when an engine family was first made, as designs and materials can be updated as necessary, and this has been true since people started making OHV conversion kits for the Ford Flathead.
Because you mentioned 4-series and A5, and most buyers of these opt for 5-door versions. Even if we decide to compare Mustang and Camaro to A5 and 4-series coupes, they are still different. They are A4 and 3-series minus two doors plus moderate design changes. Mustang and Camaro are not Fusion and Insignia GT minus two doors.
I mentioned them in the context of two-door cars, which should make it pretty clear for anyone except you which ones we're talking about. Besides, the four-cylinders aren't just hatchbacks. But the average buyer of such cars is not an Alaskan with boneheaded purism.
What's wrong in taking your kids to school in a two litre family car that looks almost like a sports coupe? You failed to address this point of mine.
It's the 2L part. The BMW should have a six-cylinder engine (I mean, come on, the name still refers to a 3L displacement) and the Audi should be available with one, not just in an "S" trim either. Hate to start this again but the inline-four, especially the 1.4L or 2L inline-four, is the absolute most boring & most annoying type of engine there is, and more so as technology advanced (someone posted a video of a straight-piped Chevy Cruze and you could barely even tell it was straight piped).
An engine isn't a soundmaker, it's supposed to perform appropriately to the car. --- Post updated --- What would it change?
Too bad it's not very good at that either. Here's the video; I guess it is a little bit louder and rougher than stock but still somewhat boring even compared to other I4s. Granted, this isn't the VW/Audi 2.0L, but even their older I4s were some of the most unpleasant engines ever, so I wouldn't be willing to bet on the new ones being any better. These are good I4s: (OK, this one is stretching, but I'll take an engine that sounds trashy over an engine that sounds boring any day of the week). (This one is better, a lot smoother but still a little bit aggressive) However, I had to cherry-pick heavily just to find a few that weren't either amazingly boring or amazingly trashy - even working with supposedly "good-sounding" I4s like the 4AG and 4G63. I4s in general are just plain boring, with the interesting ones being few and far between. With nearly any other engine type, it's the other way around; they sound and feel wonderful almost by default (and, aslo, perform adequately without needing to load up on tuner-hostile electrogadgetronic idiocy), and you have to really look to find the ones that don't.
Used? A 440i in good used condition won’t depreciate like a new car, and is a far more involving experience. OT: 4 cyls are balanced, but sound like hot garbage. V6’s sound mediocre and are inherently imbalanced. Honda made really nice i4s: B16B, F20C, K series..... But there aren’t any really good 4cyls now.
Okay, now I have to respond. That there is simply apples to oranges. They're not on the same boat as the Yugo. As far as I know, those other cars are remembered fondly and treated with some form of respect. Heck they even have modernized versions of them, so that definitely means they did something right. Meanwhile the Yugo continues to live in infamy, and rightfully so. The Yugo is cited for terrible build quality, being dreadfully slow (can barely do highway speeds, so I definitely wouldn't take one on a US Interstate), and the list doesn't end there. Can't forget the story of Leslie Ann Pluhar either. And the fact that it actually has a book written about how bad it is speaks numbers. There's not very many books I know of that's about how terrible an individual car is. I do remember reading a book about bad cars, but it wasn't about a single car, it was about many cars people consider the worst, the Yugo being one of those cars. Here's one, if it wasn't so bad, why does it also keep popping up in lists of worst cars? It's pretty much guaranteed you'll see it in one. I even have a few criticisms of my own. Like, the spare tire is in a potentially dangerous spot, placed just behind the engine. So, what happens if the car gets a flat, you need to replace it asap, and the engine is hot? It sounds like a great way to get your arms and hands burnt. Plus it looks like it would be an absolute pain to remove anyway. Those other cars you mentioned actually knew where to put a spare. Spoiler: Case in point Spare tire in a Yugo. Spare tire in a Beetle. Spare tire in a Mini. Spare tire in a Fiat 500. And last off, here's some articles. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a-quick-history-of-the-yugo-the-worst-car-in-history https://www.carkeys.co.uk/news/the-story-of-the-yugo-the-worst-car-in-the-world https://www.librarypoint.org/blogs/post/the-yugo/ https://www.slavorum.org/yugo-the-worst-car-in-the-world/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/remembering-the-yugo-yugot-to-be-kidding/ http://www.startribune.com/no-go-yu...rst-car-in-the-history-of-the-world/86426187/
Maybe for the average person, but there is a reason most performance cars have a good amount of time and money into perfecting the exhaust note.
You know it could be due to really good sales or being overrated by the public. Well, was the Aztek bad for being in many list of worst cars? Ever heard of markets? Yet the Mini's spare tire is next to the battery. Though people still drive them, and sometimes even customize them. Guess that infamy isn't that strong enough for those people. Well, the people behind the bridge, the weather, and the driver herself would also be at blame, not just the car.
