General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. MrAnnoyingDude

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    How many plastic-bodied, spaceframed 2-seater muscle cars do you know?

    And while these changes may have made the car worth less for trivia books, I don't think this is the main criteria for buying a $70+k car.
     
  2. aljowen

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    There's a new potential contender in the ev space. Apparently they already own an ex-mitsubishi factory in the USA and many of their staff are industry veterans. So it will be interesting to see if they can put anything to market.

    These are of course all renderings of the two vehicles that they have announced. Both share the same platform.



    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/1...nge-electric-truck-and-suv-starting-at-61500/
     
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  3. MisterKenneth

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    I like the design.
     
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  4. MrAnnoyingDude

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    According to the article, they're "doing everything right".

    Well, everything apart from not selling a truck for less than 60 grand.
     
  5. aljowen

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    They are a new upstart, it would be foolish for them to try and serve mainstream demand. They wouldn't have the production abilities to meet it.

    And Range Rover, Porsche, etc seem to be doing pretty well under that model.
     
  6. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Does the market have buyers to match it?

    Except that they sell sophisticated crossovers with prestige cachet, not upstart-made ladder frame trucks.
     
  7. aljowen

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    The type of person buying a luxury vehicle of that price likely has little idea of what chassis it has, only that it has 4 wheels, 4wd, is electric, and that they like it.
     
  8. MrAnnoyingDude

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    I'd assume everyone with functioning senses can tell a sporty crossover from a big ol' pickup truck, but whatever floats your boat.
     
  9. redrobin

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    You're an idiot if you think there's anything at all special about the C7 Corvette. Being made of a few aluminum rods and water bottles is hardly anything of note, especially when you're spending $70+k on a vehicle. It shouldn't blend in, it should be something special. You should be able to open up the trivia book with truly interesting things inside, not just Nurburgring times.
     
  10. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Remind me again why should I care about pointless trivia instead of the car's actual functional qualities.

    Also, the C7 is the first Corvette without a wraparound rear window since the C2, the first to break the 700 HP barrier, the first with cylinder deactivation, the first with rear double-wishbone suspension, the first to use Aerogel, the first with a carbon hood, the first to break the 3-second 0-60 barrier, the first to have a ZR1 nominally cheaper than the previous one, and hopefully the last being shamed for not having enough pointless trivia.
     
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  12. aljowen

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    This is a Tesla model S. If your point is people won't buy a car because it has a chassis like the above, well, that's a lot of electric cars ruled out. Skateboard chassis are popular in electric cars because they can have a structural chassis, and put whatever body on they like.

    There is an entire market around luxury pickup trucks and SUV's, a huge one. What type of chassis it has, has little perceivable effect on whoever is collecting the kids from kindergarten in it.
     
  13. redrobin

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    And all of that to travel around a track in Germany thus ruining the car. Functional qualities mean nothing without interest, and that's why kids like you like cars filled with tech that can go around tracks quickly and adults like me like cars for the beauty, the soul, and the trivia. Trivia is interesting, lap times are not.

    Quit while you're ahead, mate. You're making an ass of yourself.
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    This. My father is into cars, my mother is not. The only thing my mother knows is that sometimes a car is fast, sometimes they're big, sometimes they're small, and that my Mustang is uncomfortable. She's into SUVs, and only recently decided a small car fit her needs better. What the underpinnings are mean absolutely nothing to her so long as it drives nice, is comfortable, and fits her needs at the moment.
     
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  14. rottenfitzy

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    This is why you must buy a first generation 5 series! They’re slow, have some soul to it, and you can brag about how it was really advanced for the time!


    Anyways, after spending some time without my car, the thought of MOAR POWER sounds great.... and yet terrifying at the same time. Some boost may be an interesting mod...
     
  15. NismoR35

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    I'll just have one of these.
     
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  16. redrobin

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    My God those really are gorgeous. BMW really were at their peak design in the 80's and early 90's.
     
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  17. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Buy a scale model and a trivia book then.
     
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  18. rottenfitzy

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    Agreed. The late 70s were also a a real high point.
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    That’s a real nice range IMO. Modern styling doesn’t even compare.

    I would say the E12 nailed it, but I’m pretty biased to it considering I own one.
     
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  19. JBatic

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    I like the fact that my bronco is shaped and built like a brick yet somehow aerodynamic
     
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    This just got auctioned off for 132€. A Tonka estate conversion of a 440. Run & drive, very clean inside. I still couldn't have bought it (reasons, don't ask), but is it of any value?
     
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