General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Except in many cases, they dont. Theyre fiberglass shells
     
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  2. NismoR35

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    What 6677 said, the producers have a sizeable budget, but they're not that stupid in wasting a ton of money to destroy actual cars just for the sake of a scene that lasts a few minutes.

    That Need For Speed movie, The Koenigseggs used in the race aren't the actual cars. The only shot where they used real ones is the garage scene.


    The action shots, they used shells. Like, this Agera R in the movie, compared to a real one:





    Same goes for the other Supercars that get destroyed, like this Bugatti Veyron SuperSport, which, by several details, is not an actual one:



    They're all just fiberglass shells on chassis that are specially built for such purposes, I mean, even going back to Furious 7, Dom's 70 Charger R/T that he claims is a "lovechild" of a Hummvee and the Charger, it's just a shell on a dune/baja buggy chassis.
     
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  3. MisterKenneth

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    How do you tell them apart?


    I don't know. I think you both are giving Hollywood a bit too much credit, about the classic cars. I think you're right about the newer ones.

    The fiberglass shells proves my point about the newer cars. Any Koenigsegg and the Veyron are really expensive supercars, costing around $1,000,000+, so actually destroying a real one would be seen as a waste of money. That kind of money spent and lost would be a nasty hit at their budget, and one they could avoid by simply using CGI instead. Older cars like the any of the 60's Dodge Chargers and other muscle cars made before 1980, I wouldn't be surprised if they are seen as expendable by a typical filmmaker.

    For Dom's offroad Charger, I thought that it was an actual Charger body shell removed from its frame and attached to one built for offroading. I thought something similar about the 68 Ice Charger in the 8th one.

    I also looked up how they made the cars for the FnF films, and I came across this article. It states that second generation Chargers have become rare and expensive because of how Hollywood keeps destroying them.
    https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/fast-and-furious-cars-1970-dodge-charger.html
     
  4. NismoR35

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    I'm not giving them any credit, it's just how it all works. CGI is an alternative, but using too much would just make it look fake and unconvincing.

    The Chargers themselves even gave the production company challenges, as that article you linked also states that they have bought several in hideous condition, and basically have "saved" them from the scrapyard, and if memory serves me right, several of them have been repaired/survived.

    This one was used in the movie, and had went up for auction last year.


    But that's how every movie that's featured cars such as this has been. Dukes of Hazzard destroyed/damaged a ton of them throughout the TV series, and no doubt the movies, but granted some of them had lower end engines, but dressed up as an R/T.

    Then I remembered someone had complained about the 68 Charger in Bullitt getting destroyed, even though the movie itself was released in 1968, and therefore the car was literally in production at the time.
     
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  5. Googlefluff

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    Hollywood also doesn't usually buy classic cars for films either. They rent them either from companies that exist specifically for that purpose, or just from regular people, neither of whom would allow them to be destroyed, obviously. My uncle has a few classics that have been used in films, including a restored Model T that was "destroyed" at the end of the movie. In reality they just used a rusted-out shell and a bit of editing for that scene.
     
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  6. General S'mores

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    Honestly, this is actually something I would like to see Rolls Royce make. Their design language fits perfectly on a semi, and this shows it.
     
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  7. PriusRepellent

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    Also, big engines is their specialty. They have made monstrous aircraft engines (I saw a 1000+ HP 6 cylinder helicopter engine made by them in an aircraft museum once), car engines, among many other things.
     
  8. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Different companies. Rolls Royce Motor Cars are the car manufacturer and owned by BMW hence why the cars all use BMW engines, gearboxes and infotainment systems. Rolls Royce Holdings make engines, are today entirely unrelated companies with totally separate ownership and no direct ties beyond historical links (in the past they were both owned by same people, but that was a while ago)
     
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  9. Ytrewq

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    They were just 10 year old back then.
    These specific companies have a service called "rent to wreck", so they do get destroyed.
     
  10. aljowen

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    And the award for luckiest driver and passenger go to...
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  11. nosraenyr kcirtap kcin

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    This is some Final Destination kind of shit
     
  12. General S'mores

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    I'm glad they're not injured from the crash, since the gate post/chaining seems to be pretty injurious.
     
  13. Potato

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    Friend of mine bought an '06 Fusion v6. 106k miles. Thing is loaded; climate control, automatic headlights, leather interior, etc. Was clearly very well taken care of too. It's mint. I didn't expect to like it but it drives really nice. The 6 speed transmission is pretty responsive and the v6 is torquey and sounds nice. Not the prettiest but its a nice car.
    Not it in the picture but same color and wheels.
     
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  14. Ytrewq

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    A trucker in Russia was peacefully driving down a hill when his brakes gave up. His MAZ dump truck rolled into another lane, narrowly avoiding collision with an oncoming Mitsubishi, and fell off a cliff. It might have been a more-or-less ordinary accident if there wasn't a waterpark beneath the cliff. The truck landed on one of the park's slides, completely crushing it. Thankfully, there was nobody on the slide due to winter closure, so no one was hurt. The driver managed to bail out of the truck and survived, it is unknown whether he suffered any injuries.
     
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  15. nosraenyr kcirtap kcin

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    And a price that is too high.
     
  16. redrobin

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    I bought myself a faster crowd killer for my 21st birthday

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    0-60 in 5.3 seconds and a top speed limited to 155MPH. I'M PART OF THE 155 CLUB YES!
     
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  17. MisterKenneth

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    They probably did what I would've done, which is duck.
     
  18. JBatic

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    If my Dad's friend can get the deal on a rotted out 78 trans am I might be able to get my hands on a Pontiac 400 and a M22 4 speed to rebuild and put in my firebird.
     
  19. rottenfitzy

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    Is it an Ecoboost? If so, you could probably get 400hp out of it with some minimally invasive mods.

    Congrats on your new car!
     
  20. General S'mores

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    I'm going to nickname you the "Mustang User".

    Also, nice 'Stang.
     
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