General Car Discussion

I plan on moving to North Carolina in the future so I can live in/near the mountains. I took a roadtrip up to the mountains last summer, and it was super fun to drive there, even though I was driving a 2013 Altima with electric steering and a CVT. I drove on the Tail of the Dragon, which was probably the best 15 minutes of my life. It had been raining bad for a few days so the road was completely empty. If I had my Buick in roadtrip condition it would have been much more fun as the steering provides feedback and the body roll makes it feel like you are driving faster than you are.

 

I thought the title was referring to jumping a Can Am X3, jumping a BMW is much more impressive. If you want some bigger jumps the water bars on FS roads are fantastic.

 

There's an I. Consumers are often dumb and rarely check the manual warnings telling you to run premium. Turbo car unreliability? The amount that weren't run on premium and knocked to death...

 

You talking US? Non-premium fuel is very rare in Europe. (assuming premium is RON 95 and higher)

 

I'd love to, but accessible forest service roads is one thing that east Tennessee lacks, at least in my area. It's a real shame.

 

95 is the standard for Europe, meaning you've just conflicted with yourself... And the ecoboost Mustang requires 97.

Though the MON rating is also important to turbo vehicles and is typically low in many standard grade fuels. Also shockingly low in BPs high octane offerings leaving that also unsuitable for turbocharged vehicles.

American AKI is just RON+MON/2. American RON ratings aren't actually much lower than europes.

 

93 is what is standard premium in the US. In weird places like california it runs on 91.

 

Except that's AKI not RON

 

98 ron = 93 aki

 

I meant 95 is regular in Europe, but in US it is premium.

 

It's one of those little things the US does that piss off some neckbeards outside the country.

 

My car runs on sludge grade 87. Premium is honestly prohibitively expensive, though I wouldn’t mind running ethanol.

 

I put 87 in a ton of cars I should probably put premium in honestly. Most of our fleet is regular so I just sorta hit it every time.
As a matter of fact I put regular in the aforementioned ecoboost mustang. That's lame.

 

False. AKI is the average of the RON and MON ratings of the fuel. It is possible to have 103RON fuel and 94RON fuel both achieve an AKI of 93. You cannot simply convert them. Shell V-Power and BP Momentum both used to be 97RON, yet V-Power had a higher AKI of about 94/95 than Momentum coming in under 90.
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So you are basically the reason the ecoboost Mustang comes with so much power tuned out of it, ford knew people were going to rag on it while running sludge grade fuels, so mapped it for additional safety.

 

http://www.pencilgeek.org/2009/05/octane-rating-conversions.html

 

Those tables are wrong. MON and RON are 2 different measurements. It's like making a conversion for torque to volts.

 

What the fuck are you guys talking about, we went from gas or petrol to volts.

 

This is real.

 

A car made using consumer surveys.

 

You understood them wrong, they do not convert RON to MON. They offer AKI conversion from typical RON + MON combinations.