So I don't know a lot about computer hardware and I would greatly appreciate help with this dilemma I have. I'd like to know what the weak component(s) is in my computer and what some possible solutions or parts there are to fix it. I usually get around 20 FPS on Gridmap with mostly low and lowest settings. My current specs are: AMD FX-4300 Quad-Core Processor 3.80 GHz 8 GB of RAM AMD Radeon R7 200 Series (240 I think) Windows 10 64-bit Thanks for any help in advance!
Both your GPU and CPU are quite weak, and you're on a platform that has few options in terms of a good CPU. You'll need basically a new build to fix it.
He will have to. The current generation of PC hardware has pretty much moved on to DDR4. The only reason to still use DDR3 is if you've already got a powerful enough system that uses DDR3 (as in my case).
Thank you both for the help! Looks like I'm gonna have to get a job pretty soon... Might I ask what some good replacement CPU, GPU, and RAM are given my platform? Thanks again!
Replacements aren't really an option given your limited chipset, the only option is pretty much a brand new system. PCpartpicker.com has good build guides.
Your platform has very few options for good cpus , and your motherboard is probably old considering the fx-4300 so it wont support DDR4 RAM. You'd probably have to rebuild it or by a new PC.
If you’re desperate, drop in a FX-8350 with a good cooler and a used GTX960. Just know that FXs are kinda junky and are a pig on power.
For gaming he'd get the same performance as he did before (well CPU wise), I mean it's the same chip but with more cores.
True. But having the extra cores could conceivably help in some situation. As @fufsgfen points out rather often, single core performance is the most important aspect for Beam, which Visheras fail at.
It was slow even when it was released, now it''s useless (you can still use it as a paperweight tho). That card is like a GT 635, not suited for gaming nor for heavy 3d applications. I think that if you want to stick with AM3+ you absolutely have to update the cpu and buy a second hand gpu; I suggest you to upgrade the entire system and buy a new system on a new Platform (Intel or AMD it's up to you), just remember that BeamNG highly benefits from cpus with high single core performance. A modern Ryzen CPU (for example a Ryzen 5 1400, which is old nowadays) is much faster in every task compared to your cpu. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-FX-4300-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1400/2879vs3922 But if you compare the R5 1400 to a similar CPU of that time, the Intel Core i5 7400, you can see that the amd cpu is much slower in single core performance. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1400/3886vs3922 The new system always depends on how much money you want to spend
But, Ryzen 5 1600X is faster and cheaper than yours and has better single core performance as well as murders your CPU in multicore performance https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600X/3886vs3920 Ryzen models that will do really well in BeamNG are Ryzen 5 1600X, Ryzen 5 2600X and Ryzen 7 2700X With overclock those are even more excellent choices. This shows how good Ryzen really is, it does lack single core performance, but it does have enough single core performance, which will be less important in future, multicore performance is excellent, so why anyone would get 500 euro 8086K when something like half price Ryzen beats it? (says guy who bough 500 euro 8086K): https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8086K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X/m516988vs3958 Also, this Ryzen 3 does same and bit more than i5-7400 while costing only about half or something like that (I don't trust UB prices), if overclocking that Ryzen 3 is possible so that it gets around 120 points in SC mixed, then it would be insane value budget CPU, but I haven't seen enough data, worth to research, userbenchmark is not promising quite that much overclock though: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-1300X/3886vs3930 Furthermore, single core performance of 8086K is nice in theory, but when there is load on other threads, turbo clocks are not 5Ghz, they drop to 4.3Ghz really easily and @4.3Ghz single core result is not really very high at all, it was something over 130 I think, can't remember so precisely. I7-7700K is not much slower than 8086K as turbo stays up better, but if you really need that fastest possible single core performance and you need that only when running at maximum graphics with everything on and recording video with several cars, then overclocked Intel gives best results, but no need to avoid Ryzen, for normal gaming in BeamNG it works. Now i5-7400, there is i7-7700K as upgrade path that gives pretty much perfect performance, going for 9th gen intel might give bit better result than 8th gen intel, but TBH those Ryzen models or i7-7700K or even 7th gen K model of i5 would give much better performance. So you can't really beat Ryzen for the price / performance ratio, you will be paying a high premium for better single core speed that most don't need. Also there will be 3rd generation Ryzen coming in few months that will have higher single core speeds if rumors are correct, after that there is no way to recommend intel anymore for this game as 130-140 SC Mixed in Userbenchmark will be plenty, also game is said to receive more optimizations so it is likely need of high single core performance will lessen, uncertain to what extent. If I would have money, I would really get that Ryzen 3 1300X just to test how it would work out.
That's true, I just wanted to compare two CPUs that had aroud the same percentage in everything (if you check, they have similar values in gaming/workstation). But yeah, Ryzen is just better than intel right now for budget but still extremely capable systems; finally we're out of that age when if you had a budget system you couldn't play basically any game or do any kind of 3D work. I mean, not even a 6th gen Core i3 (i3 6100) can beat the Ryzen 5 1400 for performance/value. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-6100-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1400/3511vs3922
You forgot the Threadripper models. Most of those have good single-thread performance too. The bandwidth is insane too with quad-channel DDR4, and 64 PCIe lanes. Well, in raw compute power per dollar, I'm pretty sure the Ryzen 7 2700 wins out. Same can be said for AMD Radeon video cards (seriously, check the FLOPS on Vega 64 and R9 Fury X then look at the price... then do the same for Nvidia cards)
Those get bit expensive though and you can't really utilize all those cores too well, or you can but need to tamper with graphics settings as more vehicles need more single core performance because of graphics, lua etc. so I'm not sure if in future it gets so much better that Threadripper can be used to better performance in BeamNG than 9900K intel and price difference is favoring Intel. I don't really see reason to go for Threadripper because of that, but if in future it can use all cores instead of being limited by one core performance, then it might be something that provides way to run more cars than 9900K, but currently I would go for intel if wanting to use so many cars. Then there are other uses of course like rendering etc. where Threadripper is faster and there we can start to compare to HEDT Intel which is whole different price level. I doubt that Threadripper will do much better than 2700X in BeamNG currently, 9900K is probably faster than any AMD in BeamNG, but that comes with a price tag too, Threadripper costs then even more and going for big Intel models is for wealthy only. I would think that overclocked 9900K is fastest CPU for BeamNG, there is one HEDT model that might get pretty close or in some cases bit faster, but those suffer same issue, just not as severely as Threadrippers, when you add different cars, especially modern ETKs those add to single core load that graphics, lua and UI runs at, which then causes only some of CPU cores and threads can be used before FPS starts dropping below magical 60fps. Those issues bother really only with maxed out graphics though, but I doubt such systems would be bought to run normal graphics quality. It is bit bothersome situation, but let's see how future optimizations will work out, those might help to get more out of such systems. Also Zen 2 being so close, I would not recommend investing heavily on current tech Threadrippers.
Sure, I was comparing two mid-low cpus. AMD now has won the performance/value thing, especially with Ryzen.
So the FX is a potato, the 8 gigs should be fine, the R7 is also a potato and windows 10 just destroys it all nicely. For you, I recommend a Ryzen 2200G, 16 gigs of dual channel ram (faster than 3000mhz) and Windows 7 if you can.
Spoiler: Meme photo, you're warned Even tho Windows 7 is a great system (and I use it for my second desktop) its support and updates will be terminated on January 2020 so it's not Worth to use it as a new system os. I don't even think the 2200G supports it.
