Some questions about "mods" and to "modders"

Please dont make Mesh mods they are considered extremely bad quality and they are more common on Russian websites....

 

where did this very handy rating go and why. nowadays it's needed more than ever, so I can avoid writing rants for 20 minutes and instead express myself with a simple "meh, disagree".

Most meshslappers are glorified to the point of being almost untouchable by (atleast) the 5 people in their private group that can't tell a masterpiece like Stoat's Coronet from a Russian Automation car.



a good 75% of those kind of people reside in groups / conversations like these.

To the point where they defend them no matter the circumstance, @StirlingSLR for instance told people to harass me on youtube because I "reviewed" his "mods" and then falsely claimed aformentioned video because it had a DL link in it's description.


There is no such thing as a "good meshslap". No on all counts.


Downloads for a mod which uses Turn10's property, being 99% of the meshes and textures. Afaik, it is illegal to claim someone on behalf of someone else, especially when that company is as huge as Turn10 is.


I'm still not even sure what to make of this blatant abuse.

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To clarify;
I have no problems with proper high quality ports of meshes from games like the Montgomery with it's bespoke jbeam, but lazy barely modified ETK or Sunburst Jbeam (or any other existing vehicle) really irritates me because it waters down the overall feel of the car, as if you do this, you end up with all cars handling and driving pretty much the same. Because their suspension layout is identical, only changes usually being wheelbase / vehicle width.

It's very rare to see a mod that uses another car's jbeam have a significant weight difference from it's original Jbeam... so that is usually not even a good argument.

Especially when the author simply does not care enough to learn how to make something as simple as a front bumper for themselves and then decides to either lie their way out of it with a lame excuse or stretch another cars jbeam to "fit" it,

Jbeaming car body panels is such an easy "linear" thing to learn. If I, a lazy 16 year old with no redeeming skill outside of copy pasting different suspension on a Japanese hatchback can do it, anyone can with a spare 45 - 50 minutes to learn.

I would rather have 5 mods that take months to make because they're scratch Jbeamed properly than 20 mods made in 2 days each commissioned by some money hungry "Youtuber" wanting to capitalize on some easy money with another low effort crash compilation video.


(Not my photos.) (and yes, this is illegal if that mod author chooses to use another person's models, textures or whatever.)

Quality is far superior to pumping out meshslaps in this case. And most people appear to agree with that.



Again, sorry if this is all over the place. I rarely proof read these posts, feel free to correct me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

The sentence "They are some of the best meshslaps in recent times" made me actually cringe physically, want to laugh like a maniac, facepalm & feel sad at the same time... Does that person even think/read what they're writing? I can't even express what I feel after reading that

 

Perhaps Beamng should charge a small fee for each mod downloaded with 50% going to the creator. I’d be happy to pay for quality mods and this would encourage people to spend more time and effort developing stuff.

If people don’t like a mod nobody is forcing them to download it. I just download what I like without the need to whinge about mods I might consider low quality. Also it’s worth pointing out that a lot of the criticism seems to come from those who contribute nothing of note themselves.

 

It wouldn't encourage people to make better mods. Actually, it might do the opposite, people will know they can make half-assed shit and sell it at the price of a quality mod.
Also, the idea of having to buy mods is really shit.

It doesn't matter if the member who made that point has contributed to the forums, as long as they have a good point and aren't spouting bullshit then it's fine.

 

Calm down Bethesda.

 

the most pointless thing abot a meshslap is that it's basically just a pessima/200bx/grand marshall that handles an drives the exact same way.

they're so shit that they're redundant

 

Yeah....

I don't think everyone may be able to pay for it though...

 

hey, not everyone has expendable income to throw around

 

Plus, making mods is a hobby and not a job.

 

Maybe it’s just me, but when everything’s free people can’t really complain too much. There’s always the option to make something better yourself.
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Anyway don’t you guys get pocket money?

 

I doubt this post has any point but...modding is a hobby I don't have to do, yet I would have to spend a very long time if I want a mod to be called decent even. I put in effort, yet it doesn't seem like it would be worth much. And yes, mods aren't easy, and some of the fun is finally getting something working, though it doesn't help when the difficulty curve is high..

waits for hate because this probably was stupid

 

meshslaps are cancer.
Some are better then others but its still bad nonetheless
I feel bad for people enjoying the prasu because its basically the 200bx. highly modified and worse.
I wanna fix everything like it should work irl but man, i dont have an engineering degree in everything. im just starting my 1st year of college.
Mods are a high learning curve for those who wants perfection. in meshslaps the learning curve is 100 times easier. there isnt really a learning curve for meshslaps since its the most simple stuff you can do basically.

Tbh its disappointing, i wanna make mods that are somewhat perfect but lack knowledge on how to make it. Theres barely any support for mods and due to the complexity nobody is gonna help either. Wiki is getting better but its still missing a ton of things.

I love making mods, i love beamng. but unless you are somehow already in that specific field of engineering, good luck getting a jbeam to work the same way it does irl.

Which in result demotivates some to make good mods because its simply impossible for them to make that.

At times this makes me very sad. because unless someone makes a formula which helps us calculate beam stuff easier, most kids who wants mods will stick with meshslaps.

I feel as if somehow the devs are slightly to blame for the meshslaps but they arent at all. just the complexity of the subject makes it hard to work with.

Realism isnt easy. BeamNG is proof of it.

But i want to add another thing.
Nothing in my life has ever made me so passionate about physics and such. so much to the point where i bug my teachers to teach me more complex physics stuff even tho we dont need to know those.
Beamng started a flame of passion inside of me which makes me hungry for learning. Never in my highschool life i wouldve said please teach me physics.

For some people tuning a shock might take 4 hours. for some 2 weeks. well for me its looking like its going to be a life adventure of learning physics.
Some people are up for that task, some prefer to keep it simple with meshslaps.
It honestly all depends on the motivation of the creator.

 

Lack of simplified modding documentation adds to the problem I feel. As a lot of the wiki just assumes you already know what so and so means, when in reality you probably don't D:

 

C'mon dude, don't underestimate yourself. I think your Prasu is pretty good.

 

Well, it is his personal opinion whether he's happy or not with the final product.

 

Not everybody is rich so no