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  1. AdR

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    For those of you who thinks "it's an alpha, deal with it" is a way of trying to justify what the developers are doing wrong, well, think again.

    Let's take an example of a recent alpha state game that I've been following since it's Kickstarter stage... Carmageddon Reincarnation.

    The game's first release was FULL of bugs, it was a very early alpha to satisfy the backers. Then they've worked for months on each update once it got to Steam, from Alpha to Beta releases and now close to it's final release date. They kept on IMPROVING the game, fixing bugs, adding content, making things work like they should on every single update.

    Why BeamNG should be any different? what's the point in releasing rushed updates? who cares about two new vehicles if the most important features are broken?
     
    #61 AdR, Apr 30, 2015
  2. monte379

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    Thanks man!! Everything works now;)
     
    #62 monte379, Apr 30, 2015
  3. HighDef

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    Dude I'm sure your used to it but don't take any notice. What the hell is the definition of early access? Why would you want all the fans to play your game before its finished? SO YOU CAN FIND OUT ALL THE BUGS AND FIX THEM FASTER !!! Anyone complaining does NOT deserve to apart of alpha testing and should be BANNED, but that's just my thoughts. Really disgusted at what some people put on this forum, they have no idea what the purpose of this community. The price is SO cheap too, dam I'm annoyed, all of the BeamNG team you guys RULE!
     
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  4. gabester

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    Carmageddon Reincarnation is not pushing a state-of-the-art physics engine. They are also developed by an established AAA company which has been making games for 20 years.

    Also, most of the bugs in the new version broke in the last 5 minutes before releasing the update, and we have since fixed them. A hotfix will come out later today.
     
    #64 gabester, Apr 30, 2015
  5. Dummiesman

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    Again, THE DEV BUILD WAS FINE BEFORE IT WAS PUSHED TO STEAM. They didn't know this would happen. :|

    If they knew the release would happen like this they wouldn't do it. Simple.
     
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  6. Nadeox1

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    I just read the whole thread, and this saddened me a lot to see people literally bashing to the devs.

    Yes, the release has bugs.
    Yes, the release broke some important features
    Yes, the release has more bugs than before

    But there are proper ways to say that one is not satisfied with something.


    On one side there are people that want updates, and they want it immediately.
    On the other side that are people that want devs not to rush.

    On one side there are people that will always go with the devs, on the other side there are people that doesn't give a damn and just bash the devs for whatever reason they can imagine.

    Devs life probably ain't easy with such community.


    About Carmageddon as said above. I got that game 1 year ago. Got only 3 updates (including the latest one) - And the game is still unplayable for performance reason for 70% of the users, also they downgraded the graphics settings too... BeamNG could totally go that way, but then people will complain about the lack of updates.
     
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  7. 14ramosr

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    Dude, seriously....shut up. Im going to get banned if you dont
     
    #67 14ramosr, Apr 30, 2015
  8. DrowsySam

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    gg


    (imported from here)
     
    #68 DrowsySam, Apr 30, 2015
  9. AdR

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    LOL that made my day, thanks!
     
    #69 AdR, Apr 30, 2015
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    found another bug, or problem to be precise, idk if it has been mentioned before but airplanes are absolutely impossible to use with this new axle torque reaction thing.
     
    #70 TedHallgren, Apr 30, 2015
  11. HighDef

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    On a positive note I am seeing massive gains in performance and am loving the 200BL, the only thing that's hindering me is F11 won't work to bring up the editor but I'm sure it will be fixed in time.

    I hope all the team have a chance to have a great Bank holiday weekend RELAXING!
     
    #71 HighDef, Apr 30, 2015
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    Will the hot fix fix the issue with the part changer?.
     
    #72 zacharyl, Apr 30, 2015
  13. gabester

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    Yes, we fixed that, as well as a ton of other bugs.
     
    #73 gabester, Apr 30, 2015
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    Sweet! Thanks for fixing the bugs so quickly:D
     
    #74 monte379, Apr 30, 2015
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    None of this is handled either atm

    (imported from here)


    EDIT : When going back from legacy input screen, the left menu bar dissapears.
     
    #75 Dummiesman, Apr 30, 2015
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    I have some weird gray texture issues on the road in the Port map.

    screenshot_00001.jpg screenshot_00002.jpg screenshot_00003.jpg

    Edit: also, how do you fire the cannon? I thought it was "t".
     
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  17. Joeyfuller2000

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    Removed
     
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  18. Diamondback

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    Says the guy that released a rather broken car that had been hyped for weeks.You also received quite some backslash for it, so you should know how that feels. You fixed your car quickly and so will the devs.

    (not to speak of the quite easy fix for most of the current issues)
     
    #78 Diamondback, Apr 30, 2015
  19. VeyronEB

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    Current issues are all caused after upload, relatively simple fix. They arent broken.
     
    #79 VeyronEB, Apr 30, 2015
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    Not sure if these count as bugs, and if they've already been mentioned (I haven't seen them mentioned yet but I haven't checked every single thread on the forum)..

    - Ibishu 200bx brake disks have a dark area on them shaped like brake pads
    - Ibishu 200bx resets + pauses physics on hard crashes. Happened twice now, not sure which specific area of the car I crashed though..
    - Gavril Roamer automatic's gear indicator needle thingy moves a lot less than it should to fit the P-R-N-D-2-1 writing on the dash
    - Gavril Roamer "brake" light on the dash when the e-brake is on overlaps the "mph" writing
     
    #80 Neidjel, Apr 30, 2015
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