On Hold Ibishu Blackfoot ('84-'96 Jeep Cherokee) 1.1

An acceptable equivalent of a box-on-wheels

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  1. atomspeed123

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    You might be forgetting something... The engine is the same as the Hopper's with different JBeam script.
    The model is the same, however I don't think the airbox is the same. Of course, to add a snorkel, an air pipe will have to be added, but then again later on.

    I'll be focusing on getting the stock car finished first as said, although I am gladly open to ideas since I know how vast the XJ community is :D
     
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  2. General S'mores

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    Well, I'm fine if it's using a Hopper engine, as long as it's later on implemented.
     
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    hog0005 has made a lot of offroad suspension parts for the D-series and the Hopper, he might be interested in helping you out with the suspension. I don't know if he'll have the time since he's working on several of his own mods (and it sounds like he's having car trouble IRL), but he should be able to answer some of the questions you might have.
     
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    Well, since it's supposed to be in the Ibishu lineup at the same time as the Hopper, it would make sense.
    I don't think I've actually listed the engines made available by @Capkirk , so I'll list them here. An engine closer in spec to the Hopper, a non-HO (high output) engine exists.
    Here are the engines available:
    Diesel
    'Charmand' (yet to ask @schumacher for permission to the name) 2.1-litre 4cyl Turbo Diesel with 85hp
    VM-Motori-esque (yet to be named, can't name it Civetta since that really wouldn't fit :p) 2.5 4cyl Turbo Diesel with 115hp
    Gasoline
    4.0-litre 6cyl non-HO with 170hp - Side note, might have a power/comfort auto trans toggle like the real car if I can get that working in lua
    4.0-litre 6cyl HO with 190hp - fixed in power 24/7 by oem, like this irl
    2.5-litre 4cyl with 105hp carb, 120 TBI and 130 MPI
    2.7-litre 6cyl - yes! An early Pessima V6 variant, resembling the 2.8 LR2 from the early Cherokees which the 4.0 replaced, since it was so bad - 115hp with a carb, and 170hp with the Pessima's MPI system.

    These engines are already running in test mules of the Hopper, along with some of my test transmissions and diffs.
    The HO is awfully quick and can do 0-60 in close to 7 seconds, similar to the real car in the 80s.
    On the flipside, the 2.1 is awfully slow and mainly works for very slow off-road work due to its torque. This also won't last into later models, like the 2.7.
    The 2.7 is equally awful, slow-revving but quite torquey. It will only come on earlier models like the real car.
    The 2.5 gas and diesel are about in-between these. They're not amazing but they offer a compromise between low end torque and good acceleration.

    The 2.5 is quite similar to the Hopper 2.5, but not exactly the same.

    Nice to hear. I might send a PM and see what he thinks, and if he's able to help.
     
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  5. Haida

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    y tho
     
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  6. atomspeed123

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    Why what?
     
  7. Haida

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    i don't know i just posted a random thing
     
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    y tho?
     
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  9. atomspeed123

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    A little fuel tank has been made to fit between the frame rails, behind the rear axle:
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    Next step:Stock exhaust system.
     

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  10. Sithhy™

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    Blackfoot vs. B1 Offroad showdown Soon™? :p
     
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  11. carsmin

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    its a 3 door
    door + trunk
     
  12. atomspeed123

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    I was genuinely thinking that earlier! Although keep in mind, I'll have a size advantage on the trails, not to mention lower weight and the mighty 4.0 :p
    Well technically yes, but the Jeep community calls them 2-doors for whatever reason, just like they call regular XJs 4-doors. I don't really know why they don't count the hatch, but since the community knows it as a 2 or 4 door, that's how it'll be shown.
     
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    Also, the 2.5 and 4.0 (should, unless I somehow forgot) have a 4 barrel carb option, which sets them to be exactly the same as the stock hopper engines.
     
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    I'll have 2,4t of weight coupled with tank-like offroad capabilities :D
     
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    I can almost guarantee that it'll get stuck in the mud more often than mine will :p
    You'd be right there, my bad. I checked up on that, and yeah, the option is there. Though I'm not entirely sure what that would be used on, as all the selector configs will have the non-HO (for the 4.0) MPI and up engines for the 4.0 and 2.5. Maybe an old-style one, but not the Bucanneer (Wagoneer). Kind of like a sort of restomod, but then older parts? I'm not sure. I'll try not to put those to waste
     
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    Guess only time will tell that o_O
     
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    I just added those because it took all of 30 seconds to do, I don't care if you use them in any configs. They could be used on a junker config that's had a Hopper manifold stuck in it as a quick repair, or maybe a third world export version.
     
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    If you need any pictures that you cant find online or if you need any info let me know. XJs are sort of my drug addiction...
     

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  19. Dirtbikr98

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    man i can't wait for this.. I have an XJ myself
     
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  20. atomspeed123

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    The Hopper exhaust system has been added and altered to fit, with new routing past the catalytic converter:
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    As you can also tell, the rear bumper has been added, along with the separate edges for it.
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    I'm looking into how the D/H series chassis suspension (it's the same for both) for the rear and Hopper for the front in the NodeBeam Editor, to try and figure out how it works, and try to make the suspension system work myself. If I find it too difficult or can't properly do it myself, I'll see if I can find someone (a few people have been suggested) who can help.
     
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