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On Hold 1984 - 2006 Brutus B1

Discussion in 'Land' started by Sithhy™, May 16, 2017.

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Should the "empty" grille be replaced with the one from the Hopper on all hoods?

Poll closed Apr 26, 2019.
  1. Yes, do it

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  2. No, don't do it

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  3. Leave them as separate designs

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  1. atvrider65

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    The humvee has independent front and rear suspension. This allows maximum ground clearance with a lower center of gravity and it can offer better traction and stability offroad.
     
  2. fluffy12345

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    yes and no the civilan version has the solid axle in the rear and independent in the front while the military uses indepentdt all around they just use heavy duty springs all the way aroudn as well as a portal axle at the end of each axle point so it sits higher but its not seen it sits inside the wheel basically
     
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  3. sjbphoto

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    Yeah thats what i thought. Still tho, imho there should totally be a front solid axle. Idk, its not really a thing irl, but could be cool
    kinds like this but not rc lel
     
  4. ThatCarGuyDownTheStreet

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    Uh, no. They had all IFS. You're thinking of the "Hummer" not the Humvee. There's a huge difference. They share literally no components whatsoever.
     
  5. fluffy12345

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    well yeah thats cause the hummer is the civilain version and humvee is the military
     
  6. Harkin Labs Gaming

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    There is a civilian variant of the Humvee called the H1. It is literally the exact same thing as the military variant except for added interior comfort and windows above the taillights.
     
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  7. mano11

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    The H1/"Humvee" actually has independent suspension on all four corners. And as far as I know no variants have a solid front axle.
     
  8. fluffy12345

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    oh yeah thats right the h2 and h3 have the solid axles
     
  9. fufsgfen

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    They snap steering components too, should come with warning sticker on dashboard "on road use only!".
     
  10. Harkin Labs Gaming

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    They're basically rebadged Tahoes with parts from other GM trucks.
     
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  11. Chance Barber

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    I don't even make YouTube videos but I'm honestly so excited for the release of this mod, that I would honestly make a mod review video for this.
     
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  12. atv_123

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    Oh boy... where do I even begin with this one.

    First off, it will be released eventually... Sithhy is just about done with making models... there are only a few left to be made before we have everything. Then I need to put everything in game (at the moment I have made no progress due to real life, but if all goes to plan, what I a working on in real life should end up giving me much more real time to work on this) and then, once it is all in game, schumacher will take it and give it the final texture work it deserves. So eventually, yes... when... I dunno.

    I saw a question in there somewhere with how many configurations will it have? I'm gonna be honest... I have lost count by now. Sithhy, your gonna have to answer that question as I just don't know anymore.

    As for suspension systems, Real Hummers (or Hummer H1's after the H2 came along) have full independent suspension front and rear. Their drivetrain and suspension system is identical to the military Humvee's except their portaled hubs have helical gears (to cut down on noise) while military Humvee's have straight cut gears. The only functional difference was in the interior where the difference doesn't need explaining.

    The H2 and H3 however, just to clear up a little misconception, while using all GM parts, actually was not just a rebranded Tahoe. The Tahoe was built in Texas while the H2 was built on an assembly line that actually ran parallel to the Hummer H1 and Humvee assembly lines in Indiana. The front came from the Chevy Silverado HD, and while the rear did come from the Tahoe, the center (or 70% of the vehicle) is unique to the H2 as they needed to build it special to give it the extra ground clearance it required for off roading.

    The H3 on the other hand was the even smaller cousin was based mostly on the Colorado and Canyon chassis. This however wasn't good enough for Hummer though, so they ended up adding a lot of extra chassis pieces to massively stiffen the frame over normal trucks that used it. In fact they changed so much of the original frame, that it was actually kind of pointless to even start with the frame in the first place and not just start from scratch. Hilariously, unlike the H2, the front suspension is actually unique to the H3. It is further forward and wider than any other truck in its class at the time and used all unique parts (in terms of A arms anyways... the rest was pretty much standard GM).

    As fufsgfen said though... they were prone to snapping tie rods and busting steering racks because, since its GM and they have to do corner cutting somewhere, they just used standard steering systems for the vehicle class on both the H2 and H3's... but then proceeded to give each one MUCH more massive tires then any normal vehicle in that particular segment would ever normally have... plus with all that weight on top of it, it was only a matter of time before stuff would start to break, especially when used in the conditions these things were designed for.

    Finally, the last bit... Yes. There will be a configuration that will allow for the use of solid axles on the H1. It is a heavily modified truck that I remembered from my childhood when I used to be into modding 4x4Evo 2.
    kchi.jpg
    This original mod was created by some guy named Turbo back in like... 2005 or 2007 time. And... I dunno... I have just always loved it... so we are bringing it into Beam with the Brutus. It will have no sway bars, massive long travel shocks, and flex that would put any Jeep to shame. Rock crawling, here we come ;)
     
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  13. Sithhy™

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    More than one, that's for sure :p We have been thinking about some config naming schemes, but so far they all have been a bit... too much to remember o_O
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    From other news, I have finally started working on the B1 again after a month of hiatus (kind of lost my enthusiasm & motivation, even for playing games) & I'm finishing up the solid axle suspension for the 'Offroad Beast' config (pictured in atv_123's post)


    (mind the pink parts, the textures are still broken in Blender for me)
     
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  14. umustbeloggedintododat

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    Wait, you're finishing up the Brutus B1??????????? :O
     
  15. Sithhy™

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    Well, I am... but only from the modeling side of things, while there's still a lot of stuff left to be put ingame & textured
     
  16. umustbeloggedintododat

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    Oh. ok!
     
  17. crazyguy69

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    @atv_123 so you have worked on h1 hummers irl right have you ever worked on deuce and a halfs/5 tons?
     
  18. Jarret Rucker

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    This was probably already asked and answered but idc. Will there be a version with tanks treads?
     
  19. crazyguy69

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    yes there will see late 60 in the thread around there you should start to see the posts
     
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  20. atv_123

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    I "worked" for a guy whose business was exclusively in restoring old military equipment in my teenage years (as just an under the table highschool job). It was an interesting job... I worked on Humvees, Deuce's, Dozers, Jeeps... you name it we did it... I would say the coolest thing I ever got to work on was a Stryker, but I didn't get to do much to it as it was all mostly there... I mostly just changed the tires and repainted it... but still pretty neat.
     
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