I am planning on building a computer. The first, and probably hardest decision, is the processor. I have narrowed it down to the two I will choose between. Intel i7 4790K @4.0GHz (Turbo @4.4GHz), $340 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369 OR AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Octo-Core @4.0GHz (Turbo @4.2GHz), $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284&cm_re=AMD_FX-_-19-113-284-_-Product NOTE: I would have an actual Graphics Card, I would not run on the Integrated card (Intel HD Graphics 4600). I'd like some feedback from someone other than myself and my stepdad (helping fund the build). If I got the AMD, I could spend more on the graphics card and etc, but I feel more towards Intel. I am not entirely sure. I've read a good bit that AMD is more bang-for-buck, but Intel wins over in performance. Thanks for any help you may or may not give!
Just so, AMD is budget, Intel is performance. Perhaps you might consider an i5-4690k? Depending on where you get it, it's not much more than an 8350, has far superior single-core performance, better power consumption, slightly worse multithreaded passmark score (though that isn't necessarily how real-world performance is). I personally have a 4690k, currently overclocked to 4.4GHz. I could go higher, but the stock cooler is at its limits with this. It runs BeamNG wonderfully, can handle 7 pickups without getting noticeable frame drops.
That i5 looks quite promising, but I am not sure if I want to take that step down. If I got the i7k, I could turbo up to 4.4 already, and who knows with the over clocking. If I need to reduce the cost by about $100 though, that i5 looks perfect. Thanks much! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
i7 only realy offers the hyperthreading over the i5, and games dont usually benefit from the higher core counts that brings with it, beamNG does but beamNG doesnt play nicely with hyperthreading either so even beamNG throws that out the window.
Re: AMD vs Intel - My New PC Build (UPDATED, 4 Processor Showdown) I've narrowed it down to FOUR processors, 2 Intel, 2 AMD. #1 Choice: Intel i7 4790K @4.0GHz (Turbo @4.4GHz) (Overclocks to @4.7GHz), $340 #2 Choice: Intel i5-4690K @3.5GHz (Turbo 3.9GHz) (Overclocks to @4.4GHz), $240 #3 Choice: AMD FX-9370 Octo-Core @4.4GHz (Turbo @4.7GHz) (Overclocks to @5.3GHz), $230 #4 Choice: AMD FX-8350 Octo-Core @4.0GHz (Turbo @4.2GHz) (Overclocks to 4.7GHz), $180 I personally see the Intel as better, just in overall performance. But the AMD is more bang for buck, while the Intel gives you the performance. AMD = better for price Intel = more expensive, better for graphics and gaming Is that a decent consensus? Option 1 v 2: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-4790K-vs-Intel-4690K Option 1 v 3: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-4790K-vs-AMD-FX-9370 Option 1 v 4: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-4790K-vs-AMD-FX-8350 Option 2 v 3: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-4690K-vs-AMD-FX-9370 Option 2 v 4: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-4690K-vs-AMD-FX-8350 Option 3 v 4: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-9370-vs-AMD-FX-8350 (for all those too lazy to search themselves or are interested)
Re: AMD vs Intel - My New PC Build (UPDATED, 4 Processor Showdown) What do you mean with ''Overclocks to X Ghz''? They overclock as much as you want (or can).
Re: AMD vs Intel - My New PC Build (UPDATED, 4 Processor Showdown) That's the overclocking that won't over-do the CPU. If yo go farther, you'd have to be careful. That's like the max comfort zone of the CPU.
Re: AMD vs Intel - My New PC Build (UPDATED, 4 Processor Showdown) The higher the voltage the bigger the comfort zone
Re: AMD vs Intel - My New PC Build (UPDATED, 4 Processor Showdown) Even still, it's just do I want the ridiculously high clock speed of AMD, or the performance of the Intel i7K/i5K?
Re: AMD vs Intel - My New PC Build (UPDATED, 4 Processor Showdown) Clock speed != performance (in different architectures and CPU types)
Re: AMD vs Intel - My New PC Build (UPDATED, 4 Processor Showdown) Intel i7 4790K @4GHz scores 8. AMD FX-9370 Octo-Core @4.4GHz scores 7.3. So I don't think clock speed necessarily equals performance.
Re: AMD vs Intel - My New PC Build (UPDATED, 4 Processor Showdown) Uh... that's what I just said... of course clock speed equals performance in the same chip, but you can't use it as a comparative between different chips and architectures.
Re: AMD vs Intel - My New PC Build (UPDATED, 4 Processor Showdown) Good point *facepalms at self* my bad. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - - - Updated - - - The Intels score a higher score, and in the summaries it says: Pros for Intel: Hyperthread (i7 only) GPU Newer manufacturing process Passmark Scores significantly better lower cost per year on power Pros for AMD: More Cores Higher Clock Speed Higher Turbo Clock Speed Best overclock speed So the way I see it, Intel has more to it in EVERYTHING other than cores/core speed (which is still overclocked to 4.7 (i7) and 4.4 (i5) is really good) AMD has more clock speed (overclock 5.3 for 9370 and 4.7 for 8350). I dunno. I'll update this thread when I start making a decision.
I'd really go with the 4690k over either of those AMDs. AMD has some wacky core structure. It's really quite inefficient. Higher clock speeds makes up for some of it, but Intel is still far better.
Re: AMD vs Intel - My New PC Build (UPDATED, 4 Processor Showdown) The ones highlighted in black, why are they pros? That is just telling you they are less efficient, more ghz, more power, less performance.
Re: AMD vs Intel - My New PC Build (UPDATED, 4 Processor Showdown) That's exactly what I'm saying. It seems AMD is all bark but no bite, if you know what I mean. I'll probably go with the i7K or i5K, I7K if I can, i5K if I need to reduce costs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
That 'far' bit gave away you're intel-biased and therefore unobjective. First of all, there's a $70 price gap between 4690K and 8350, the ones you should be comparing it to are i5-3350P or i5-4460. Secondly, even if you compare them that way the difference between these two isn't that big in any given test. And since it's a BeamNG.drive forum you should take a close look at our favourite BANANA benchmark chart which clearly shows that stock 4690K isn't any faster than a stock 8350 and it gets even worse for intel when you overclock them. Summing things up won't give any new findings, all has been already said. Intel has the leading edge and it's top solutions can be described as being 'far better' than best AMD offerings, no doubt about it. But at the mid-range parts we're looking at things aren't all that clear and if you're a price-concious buyer then you'll get a bigger bang for your buck with AMD parts.
