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Bad response correction curves

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by Bastschi, May 8, 2021.

  1. Bastschi

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    Hello,
    Here is the response curve created with WheelCheck 1.72 and my new Logitech G923.
    I would like to ask someone who knows about response curves to analyze this curve ... does it look really really bad or am I wrong?
    In the state, it makes the vehicles uncontrollable
     

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  2. BlackMetal

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    Yeah It looks strange, does it act normal when youre not using LUT?
     
  3. P_enta

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    Uuuhhhh that’s... not good. On my Logitech g920 it matches the straight line right there and acts perfectly.
     
  4. Bastschi

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    Wheel.csv you mean ?
    It's my first wheel, I'm not sure what is normal
    I have a bit of trouble driving in a straight line
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    How ?? It's supposed to be the same gear...
    I asked someone who has the same steering wheel (G923) to make a curve too.The curve is similar but only has 2% of force dead zone.
     
  5. BlackMetal

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    I would disable curve, you don't need to use it at all, try these settings:
    Steering:

    Filter: Wheel (direct)
    Steering wheel angle 900
    Steering lock type 1:1 hybrid

    FFB config:
    enabled - check
    inverted- check
    strength- 350
    smoothing- 500
    Side Accel Feedback- 0-5
    Update rate limit- 2000Hz
    Update type- Fast
    Use response Correction Curve- unchecked
     
  6. Bastschi

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    I don't understand what would be the point of deactivating the response curve ? The further the response curve is from the diagonal, the more reasons there are to activate it, no? In my case it would be even more necessary no ?
    Just trying to understand how that work
     
  7. BlackMetal

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    Response curve is measuring how much force your wheel has in what rotation and putting it on the curve but if this curve is so weird maybe try disabling it, I'm personally not using it, juat try and let me know if its any better
     
  8. Bastschi

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    Are you sure it's based on the rotation? Not rather according to the power of the setpoint? Because my steering wheel only makes a maximum of a quarter of a turn during the test

    I tried by removing the curve, the steering wheel is much harder and it makes a lot more noise ... Maybe it's more realistic but the theory thinks me to believe that it can not be better than with this curve ... Logically it should be better with ...
     
  9. BlackMetal

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    it should make a full lock 900 degrees to the left and right then rotate randomly if I remember right, check your Logitech drivers settings and make sure your drivers are up to date.
     
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    Do we agree on the test procedure? I followed this thread:
    https://www.beamng.com/threads/logitec-g27-set-ups.33209/
     
  11. BlackMetal

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    Yeah looks good but like I said your wheel should not behave like this unless your drivers are not working correctly or maybe there's a hardware problem
     
  12. Bastschi

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    I made the updates on G Hub and like I said I asked someone else to perform the test with his G923, the result is the same except that he has 2% dead zone

    In my opinion this test does not take into account the angle of the steering wheel, the curve represents the force requested according to the force actually executed
     
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  13. Bastschi

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    No response curve:
    -Low forces were not felt at all
    -Medium and high forces were felt too much

    With response curve it was just the opposite.

    So I decided to smooth the curve a bit with Excel to get the best of both while keeping the correction for the lack of linearity of my steering wheel
    I'm going to try it like that but in theory it seems not bad
     

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    For information, I have the impression that my curve is not too bad. I'll leave it like this now.

    However I don't understand how, with years of additional experience, Logitech can come up with such a bad response curve. For comparison here is the response curve of an old G27.
     

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  15. giogoesinsane

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    can someone please share the lut file for the logitech g923 because my wheelcheck would not give me the file i'm trying for years but whitout succes please help me thanks in advance giovanni
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  16. giogoesinsane

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    Finale i Found it how to get proper Lut now with 0% deadforce in the correction Curve, first create a csv file by using the program FCM12 and do the Force test on 6 samples ,100ms and 900°. When you've done that then put the csv file that's created in the program content manager from asseto Corsa. Then look on your computer for the LUT file that's created and put that in you're beamng like you normaly do by naming it wheel.lut and that's it for People that are interested i play on GHub:100%force,0%centering,50%sensitivity
    Beamng:wheeldirect,900°,
    cars=1:1faster if needed, trucks=1:1normal
    linearity:1,deadzone:rest(0)/end(0),
    1000strenght,500smoothing,Softlock100%,
    reducewhileparked: Cars=Yes/Trucks=No
    Updateratelimit: automatic
    Updatetype:fast(default)
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    Hi is it possible to send me that csv file of you're G27 that looks verry good thanks in advance grtz gio
     

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  17. giogoesinsane

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    #17 giogoesinsane, Jun 23, 2022
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  18. giogoesinsane

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    Now it's perfect plug and play for each car and wheel, look for rasmus'luts in Google and download them you only need the Lut file from Logitech g920 that's a perfect response Curve with 0% deadforce. enjoy beaming Greetz gio
     

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  19. giogoesinsane

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    don't need to anymore
     
    #19 giogoesinsane, Jun 24, 2022
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