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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by MrAnnoyingDude, Sep 28, 2019.
I feel like there's about to be a hoes mad moment, and not on your part, coming on soon.
You didn't get many of them close (I mixed some US makers up, and Mercury wasn't too innovative) and there will be similarities caused by the brands responding to more-or-less the same pressures as in real life - the 2008 crisis, China's growth, etc. The Beam world is similar to the GTA universe - a fictionalised versiom of our own.
It's not like Beam brands are completely unique - look at companies like ETK, or even Gavril.
Most of what's in Beam is from real life - the D-series is a Silverado/F-Series, the Covet is a Civic, the Grand Marshal is a Caprice with Crown Vic cues, the H-Series is an Express/Econoline, the Moonhawk is a GM A-Body...
If you want full originality, look somewhere else.
Brompton, Neptune, CVC, (your definition of) ETK, and Beaufort are all right on the money. The rest are still extremely close to real-life brands, even if they copy two instead of one.
Right, but why would not-GM close the exact same kinds of brands? If you're going to copy their 2000's sub-brand massacre, change it up a little bit. Additionally, you exclusively cited your Buick copy as a brand that's popular in China. Don't try and call that a coincidence.
For the umpteenth goddamn time, no car in the game "is" a real-life car. All of them take styling cues from cars of their era, region, and class/body style, some more than others, but no car is a direct copy. And none of that matters, because your fan fiction (ORIGINAL CHARACTER DO NOT STEAL!!!!!) is not the same as a simple and distinct but reflective-of-the-region name like "Ibishu" or "Bruckell," and it's definitely not the same as the specific themselves that you keep bringing up Additionally, the minimal lore that they do have is definitely more distinct than what you've created: Autobello, for example, began as a postwar economy car manufacturer, which is not a copy of Fiat's roots in the very beginning of the 20th century.
ETK is more unique than what you call it (way to be subtle in its ownership of British luxury brands). The K-Series in particular is especially unique. The I-Series' has a front end resembling Audis of the era. Even the 800 series' front and rear ends are not at all like BMWs, save for maybe the grille (the front end of the 800 Series always looked wrong to me, mainly due to the barren chunk of plastic in the middle that juts out too far and the slapped-on grille, but at least it's distinct). Sure the name is very close to BMW, but because there's no lore about it and the cars are not purely BMW styling, it's different from "Neptune," which only has the name to go by and no cars to prove that it's different.
I'm perfectly fine with BeamNG not having concrete lore, because I play this game for the cars, not the stories behind the fictional brands that make them.
on the topic of actual lore, would we say that autobellos were widely exported, like the beetle, or more local to europe, like fiats?
I'm of the opinion that Autobellos were like fiats rather than a common export.
I never thought I'd say this, but I agree with SuperAusten here. Keep it close to what's in the game.
Given the hippie paintjob option, they probably had a Beetle-like foothold in America in the counterculture days.
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You're bringing up the specifics. I just haven't had time to work out the more unique parts history of these brands, only having made history of them based on the real-life trends.
All of the German Big Three dipped their toes in ultra-luxury cars - Rolls-Royce, Bentley and Maybach.
They look a lot like BMWs, down to the Hofmeister kink in some cars, and the K-Series is basically a coupe SLK/Z4.
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If you want more stuff that would be farther from reality, simply make some realistic stuff up.
I totally agree with that statement. Cars like the Gavril Bluebuck don't exist in real life. There may be cars in real life that are simlar to the Gavril Bluebuck, but that doesn't mean that the Bluebuck itself exists in real life. I also agree with the part where you say "BeamNG cars are not a direct copy of real life cars".
I agree with SuperAusten64 as well.
Honestly, I think that the Autobello Piccolina looks like a mix between a VW beetle and a old Fiat 500, but that's just my opinion.
So what you're saying is that if someone wants stuff that's further from reality, they have to make some realistic stuff up? I'm sorry, but I do not understand what you mean by that. What do you mean by that?
If they want stuff not based on any real car, they can make it up and post here, as long as what they make could actually exist in reality.
And the Bluebuck does not exist in real life, but is very close to the Chevrolet Impala, down to being named after an antelope and having an X-frame chassis.
Thank you for the information
Autobellos may have never been exported to US,Beasuce the Fiat 600 Was Never Exported to The US.
The baja bug and flower power configs suggest that it not only was a thing in the States, but played a similar (similarly big?) role in the counterculture.
Like someone who has an ounce of creativity in their brain? For that, you'd need reasonable intellect.
Hmmm... respond on a level of an actual conversation, or go down to yours?
Because it seems you've gone to just insulting.
I've been curious for a long time how Ibishu ended up with the most Jeep-like design in this universe, so thanks for this, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of "HP" as the origin of the Hopper name! In fact the names of earlier Hopper generations could maybe include "HP5" and "HP7" after Jeep's CJ5 and CJ7.
I've had an idea for the history of Heolia, SergeantFido's Citroen-like brand. This is part 1, about the company's original Cold War-era ititeration:
Its pre-WWII past would be quite like Citroen's. However, instead of making its 2CV (that would be Charmand's job), it would pour all its resources into a more modern luxury car, based on a mix of the Tatra 603 and Jaguar Mark X, that would debut in 1952. It would have all-new hydropneumatic suspension, 120 HP/135 HP 2.5 V6 engine and semi-automatic gearbox.
In 1963, the Vendome would come to replace that car, being a deeply-reworked version with a 2.7/3.0 V6 (155/175 HP), with an optional (robotized) automatic this time (since 1967), as well as a wagon version.
In 1970, the company would make a mid-engined V12 2+2 GT supercar coupe (inspirations: Citroen SM, Lamborghini Miura, Maserati Ghibli), with a 4.5 270 HP/300 HP V12 engine. A tecnhnological marvel that failed to generate the profits it was meant to, further stopping Heolia's expansion into smaller luxury and sports cars (they had a rather pie-in-the-sky plan of getting a smaller V6 luxury car, a compact exec and a V6 sports car, all with new engines). The car was made until 1980, with the turbo V8 that was to replace the V12 failing to materialise.
Still, 1977 would have the company debut the Vendome's successor and further rework, a car (inspiration: 3rd gen Maserati Quattroporte, Citroen CX, Rover SD1) with a 3.3/3.5 V8 (205/230 HP). However, with the quality and technical edge going away, Heolia's reputation was quickly getting damaged at the expense of the Germans and Japanese.
In 1991, the company tried to stay on top of things with a redesign of the then-current car, but the new fascias (inspiration: Rover 800/Citroen XM) only looked like a mockery of the old design. Three years later, France's last luxury car company closed, with Charmand buying the remains.
cracks knuckles you are about to witness the strength of vehicle knowledge.
Give me a moment while I cobble together a vehicle.
The only real ripoff here is the Vendome, which SergentFido came up with.
As for the descriptions, I can only use real cars as jumping-off points, because I sure as hell can't draw what I'm thinking of.
I can draw decently, but idk if i'll post said drawings here because they may not reflect how I want the car to look.