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Cars that you are always lucky/unlucky with

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Angry_Bird, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. Angry_Bird

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    For me when I drive Bastions no matter what configuration (ESC was on) I always have a tendency to hit something but when I drive ETKs or anything similar (ex. the Ibishu sedans or Hirochi Sunburst vanilla-wise and mod-wise my Ibishu Mirena or Hirochi Sunstorm) I could save those turns even when the ESC turns off.

    Man I feel like some cars are cursed, does anyone have that happening to you?

    Side note I am a keyboard player in Driver camera.
     
  2. skel07s

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    for some reason whenever there's a miramar in traffic, i always end up crashing into it more than any other car. it's always a maroon one, too.
     
  3. Angry_Bird

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    For me traffic-wise it is always the LeGrans or Vivaces that will always trying to get me into macksauce.
     
  4. CaptainZoll

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    that software manager at disney certainly was unlucky with a particular Mk4 golf meshslap... :p
     
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  5. ArsPro

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    I cant really drift, but when I start driving Gavril D-Series or Gavril Roamer, I always become Ken Block
     
  6. LegThePeg

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    Probably because of the disproportionate weight distribution paired with the lack of traction control systems
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    Also, it might just be preference, but I feel like the ETK K-Series is less enjoyable to drive than the D-Series, even though the ETK should, in theory, be more fun. I mean, more grip, more horsepower, and less weight should be better, but I am inexplicably more drawn to the i6 D-Series.
     
  7. Barbent Servo GT

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    Hi, maybe I can enrich things a bit and bring some light in:

    Modern vehicles are more designed to understeer as long as it is possible. The axle geometry, weight distribution, and many other details prevent the rear from breaking out during load changes in curves. It is assumed that drivers have no special training, and yet the speeds of modern cars are higher. For safety reasons, a frontal collision is preferred, where crumple zones, airbags, and seatbelt systems can fully deploy their effectiveness. The tendency to push forward is therefore intentional.

    In older vehicles, simply releasing the gas pedal at the entrance of a curve is enough to provoke slight oversteering. (This can also be done very easily with the keyboard.) The power of older cars is usually lower, making it much easier to slide into a curve sideways, often with full throttle.The solid axles of the D-Series and Roamer immediately support oversteering with simple load changes.

    However, one can easily imagine that an inexperienced driver might overreact and lose control when the vehicle oversteers, resulting in a sideways collision with an obstacle or oncoming traffic, often with severe consequences. This is something that modern vehicles aim to prevent at all costs, so they tend to stubbornly go more straight ahead while the driver is fully on the brakes. ABS and TCS try to maintain steering capability as much as possible and also prevent the rear from breaking out. If you want to push modern (RWD) cars to the limit, you need to adopt a different driving style: Force oversteer (with electronics off and full throttle or handbrake) and then controll the whole curve with the throttle. Steering does not controll that much any more. For these reasons, there are no rally versions for the Bastion, ETK-K, and ETK-800. The FCV represents an intermediate case.

    All- or also front wheel drive is, of course, another topic altogether if you want to manage a curve at highest speeds...

    I hope this helps to understand a bit why some cars give you that Ken Block feeling much faster than others. :)
     
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  8. Mikah 01

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    Another thing is how compared to American cars , most European cars ( especially french) were designed to be stable cars and not sliding machines, especially in corners ( i mean After all , America has very long straight whereas Europe have lots of corners, geogrphical reason to the Mack of pure american motors in Europe)
     
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  9. Barbent Servo GT

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    Yes, groundbreaking for load stability was the invention of the multi-link axle in Europe in 1982, specifically by Mercedes, later also adopted by BMW and Audi. It is very possible that geography (curvy roads) was the father of this idea. Later on, Mazda and Toyota joined in. Japanese roads are also very winding. Many French vehicles were equipped with front-wheel drive, which also prevents oversteering since the rear axle is unloaded (with torque). (Unless you block it with the handbrake, which I always used to do on snow. I called it a 'slide show', hahaha).
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  10. Mikah 01

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    Don't forget the Citroën traction, wich brought a lot of handling innovation in one car : the unibody , the indépendant suspension and the FWD , receiving the name of " reine de la route" before the ds and all
     
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  11. DieselDuster

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    That one random Roamer / LegRan traffic vehicle changing lanes in the highway infront of you going 200MPH in a Scintilla
     
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  12. LegThePeg

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    Lansdale moment
     
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