WIP Civetta Bolide GTR wing [need some help]

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  1. Leet34

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    Im currently making a wing addon part for Civetta Bolide and i need some help with getting it into game. Ive searched for some tutorials but i didnt find any tutorial for making new parts for a allready made car. If you know how to do it or you know a tutorial somewhere, post it.

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  2. Bakasan

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    Essentially, you will just need to create a jbeam for the wing and mount it to the rear panel. Here is a good tutorial:)
     
  3. LSDMT420

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  4. Leet34

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    Thanks, i appreciate your help

    No man, this is topic about WIP creation and the fact that i need help is a secondary purpose.
    EDIT: Sorry, ive forgot to put in [WIP] prefix
     
  5. LSDMT420

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    Debatable but OK, in that case your thread is still in the wrong section. The vehicles sub-forum is for unique vehicles, I.E. not a modified version of an official car. This belongs in the http://www.beamng.com/forums/25-Mods-and-Skins section..

    Just sayin
     
  6. Leet34

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    Ok i will ask a moderator to move it.
    EDIT: Ok maybe on this forum isnt any moderator
     
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  7. Zappymouse

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    Download and poke around this.
     
  8. Leet34

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    No man i wanna create my first car part mod, i like more my own design. But if you mean that i can learn what values to use etc then thanks.

    EDIT: Ok after a few hours of messing up in real time editor it turned out in a huge mess... So i will probably type everything i need to.

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  9. Zappymouse

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    That's the idea. You download and poke around that mod so you have a rough idea of what to do. Also, your wing isn't creating downforce since the control surface is just a horizontal plane.
     
  10. Leet34

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    Ok so you mean that BeamNG can simulate an actual downforce by where the nodes and beams are located ? BTW it is flat, but it uses some segments to get more realistic damage, see wireframe.

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    Ive choosed this "flat" style of wing because imo it fits old cars more than modern wings. But if it wont create any downforce (I knew it anyway), i will edit it to be aerodynamic.
     
  11. Bakasan

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    There's nothing wrong with a flat wing, but if you rotate the centre part so it points downwards, you will get more downforce, provided you simulate the aerofoil correctly. I'm sure downforce can be simulated, it follows the same principles as what DrowsySam's helicopter blades use (if I recall he used actual air resistance principles as opposed to just thrusters, though I could be wrong)
     
  12. LSDMT420

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    The dragCoef value is what controls the amount of air resistance a triangle will provide. To use Zappymouse Wing as an example:

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    If you increase this value you increase the drag and vice versa. I do not know if the angle of the wing actually matters or not..
     
  13. Leet34

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    Thanks everyone for the help and after some time of work i have second protoype of the wing. It looks like it doesnt have any angle, but in fact it is rotated forwards by roughly 6 deegrees. I think thats plenty (I dont wanna rotate it by 10-20 deegrees, its not a F1)

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    EDIT: Bad news, ive got the model working in game, but the whole car mesh is rotated and for some unknown reasons the game freeze when i load the car
     
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  14. Zappymouse

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    Not really sure why I left dragcoef at 35, seems a bit mucho. Also pretty sure aero is calculated with regard to the collision triangles, so the characteristics of a flat/tilted wing are accurately simulated. Afaik, there's no correlation between dragcoef value and the design of the wing itself, but I could be wrong.

    All that would be important if my wing made more than a negligible amount of downforce.

    You haven't set location/rotation in your mesh yet. In Blender, you'd highlight the parts that aren't mapped properly, then press ctrl+a to set it.

    As for your freezing issue, you probably have syntax errors in your jbeam. Open the game console by pressing the tilde (~) key to troubleshoot.
     
  15. Leet34

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    Man i dont use blender, i use 3ds Max. Anyway, if you mean pivots, then those are at 0, 0, 0 like how they should be, if you mean something else then go more in detail, in 3ds Max it may be different.
     
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