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  1. SuperNoob05

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    When TopGear dies because of this, the BBC will die too. TopGear was the only thing that kept the BBC alive, and also the only thing that made the BBC popular.
    I understand that the BBC had to do something, but this is just to much. They bassically killed themselves with this.
    And all that because Clarkson didn't get his food. Sad, just sad.
     
  2. aljowen

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    To those who may not fully understand the BBC.
    The BBC is not really driven by profit, they are not like the US TV companies that will eat babies just to gain more profit. The BBC actively destroys itself constantly, when the stories related to jimmy savile and other BBC children's presenters came out the BBC actually gave it more coverage and more prominent coverage than any other channel. This is because the BBC has to be seen as responsible and is always trying to prove that it is responsible and can be trusted. The BBC is funded mostly by UK TV licenses, the TV license is a £145.50 ($215 USD) a year fee that anyone who owns a colour TV must pay (£49/$73 if you have a black and white TV). This is why the BBC has to prove itself constantly, because UK citizens basically have to pay for them. This is why they are also constantly trying to show that they are independent from the UK government. Since without the public paying for the TV License there would be no BBC.

    Actual BBC income stats
    Numbers are £m
    TV License Income: 3,726
    Other income (mainly BBC worldwide): 1,340

    As you can see most of the BBC's income does not rely on top gear at all. In reality people in the UK still own TV's so still have to pay the License, the majority of their funding is pretty secure in relation to programs/presenters being retired.


    Having said all that the BBC has said that Top Gear will continue. But May has stepped down by the looks of things, so expect a new and younger set of presenters and a totally rebooted show. It is also worth noting that Clarkson is actually up for sale among other TV companies now. There is a different channel in the UK called Channel 5 which is a normal commercial TV station (they play adverts, the BBC does not play adverts in the UK at all), they have a show called 5th Gear, it may be possible that channel 5 are paying very close attention to Jeremy's future since he could make 5th gear popular again.

    So Top Gear will continue but it is the end of an era, a different TV channel may buy him and give him a car show and who knows what will happen to the other presenters. James May lists himself as a former TV presenter so take that for what you would like and Hammond has done work for the BBC outside of Top Gear in the past, maybe that will continue.
     
  3. Mythbuster

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    Clarksons mother just died, he's in a divorce, 2 discs in his back have shifted so he's in massive pain all the time, his knee went bust because of filming top gear, his health is very poor, he's completely overworked due to top gear and all his collumns...
    He's obviously stressed the hell out.

    Then this happened: They didn't get anything to eat all day, filmed for 10 hours or so, and the producers wouldn't give them anything to eat, and filming didn't go to plan either(apparantly a lot went wrong, mostly producers faults)...

    But hey, at least they could have a nice hot steak at the end of the day... Aaaaaaaaand then the producers decided to film for a few hours too long, which meant the kitchen was closed and all he could have was a cold plate of soup. I'm sorry but... I don't see how it's weird that that's the straw that broke the camels back. I honestly would've punched more than just 1 person at that point.
     
  4. aljowen

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    Nah, the BBC will be totally fine. As i mentioned above most of their income will continue, they may have to cut budgets a little bit but since they are closing down one of their TV stations (BBC 3, announced long before any of the Top Gear hooha) they are going to be saving some money anyway. I assume that you dont live in the UK since the BBC has a lot of other shows that also do very well in the UK. Not that it even matters how well received the shows are, they still earn basically the same thing.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I would recommend that everyone read this article, you may need to run through a VPN or Proxy to read it if you are outside the UK: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32052736
     
  5. SuperNoob05

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    Bingo! I actually live in Germany. TopGear is pretty much the only show from the BBC that gets translated here, so it's a bit of a shame for me but, if I ever need some TopGear I can just go to YouTube and watch all 22 seasons.
    Only downside is that (allmost) all of them are uploaded in potato quality.
     
  6. redrobin

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    I couldn't agree with you more, Mythbuster.
     
  7. Kitteh5

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    Wow, never would have known it would have gone this far. Myth nailed it. I'm going to go home and just cry over the fact we have just lost the only good car show. I know it's only for a season, but I would hate for Top Gear to become something it hasn't.

    I've loved it the way it has been, and some common sense should have been whacked into those producers.

    :(
     
  8. TheAdmiester

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    Somehow it seems weird seeing "BBC confirms" and all that third person talk about the BBC on their own news articles.

    The other two presenters of TG are going with him wherever he goes though, James said today that the three of them is basically a package deal. I don't think it'll be too long before we see them on Netflix or something doing the same thing with a different name and more creative control, so I wouldn't fret just yet Mythbuster.
     
  9. Bubbleawsome

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    Honestly I think it's a bit odd that people are this upset about it. He and the other two are just going to leave and start another one somewhere.
     
  10. redrobin

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    Apperently, Netflix is looking to pick them up.

    It can only go well.
     
  11. randomshortguy

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    I'll just add that Top Gear America was a colossal fail, even though the first few episodes had some flashy cars and crazy stunts, people watch british Top Gear because of the chemistry between the three. We love to watch bumbling idiots drive fast cars. It's what gives the show the character, as well as the broad viewer share.

    It's a lot like Mighty Car Mods, their content was great but it was the eccentric characters that made the show wildly popular. Imagine replacing Marty and Moog with two run of the mill mechanics. The content may be the same or better but if these guys just talk about cars literally and seriously then we'd just have another DIY brake job channel (and there's plenty of those)

    In the end we watch these shows for the entertainment value of them, every show works this way; just in different "flavours", like fashion, cars, or politics. Anyone here a fan of Regular Cars? Case in point.

    Either way it's a shame Jeremy got fired but I don't know what BBC could have done otherwise without essentially allowing such behaviour to happen. And it can't. This could all be solved if Jeremy apologizes in a big viral video, and BBC would have to hire him back.
     
  12. Cwazywazy

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    I put a pair of high speed (Jet engine noise level) fans in front of my CPU radiator. Then I put it at a stupid high voltage (~1.65v) and hit 5.2GHz. I still couldn't break 25FPS with the stock T75. pls fix gabie.

    (note: my CPU simply won't work over 5.2GHz even if I push the voltage beyond fire hazard levels into the nuclear meltdown imminent levels.)
     
  13. Bubbleawsome

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    Was it throttling? Seems like the board might throttle it.
     
  14. randomshortguy

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    At 1.6v should get you to around 5.8, and even a dud should get you to 5.5

    Have you accidentally inserted a potato into the socket?
     
  15. Cwazywazy

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    It's an FX 8320 that lost the silicon lottery. It can hit 5.2 with less than the voltage I used. (I only went that high for the lels.) And no, it wasn't throttling.
     
  16. Hati

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    I think clarkson getting fired is a total shame, I can see the BBC's position in this though. For once clarkson's suspension was actually justified, he wasn't suspended for his opinions or something that he said. He was suspended because punched a guy in the face. Just to point it out, Clarkson is in no way in the right. Clarkson for once wasn't being persecuted by the over the top political correctness of the BBC - this time-, he had actually done something wrong. He actually reported himself for doing it, and the response of suspending him was appropriate.

    I think firing him was a mistake, there would have been a way to work this out that wasn't this. However, the damage is done. Clarkson now gets time off where he can calm down, sort out his personal life and appear on a better channel hosting a brand new program called 6th gear which will be miles better than the 2016 reboot of top gear that features piers morgan.

    We have Top Gear America... which if you ignore the early seasons, and keep top gear uk out of your head and instead compare it to scrapheap challenge... it's a pretty good show. TG USA seems to just be the 3 car challenges with presenters I've noticed are developing personalities.
     
  17. aljowen

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    From that last paragraph i can only assume you watch soup with Nerd³. But i agree, the latest series of USA top gear is actually OK, it has the production value that Top Gear had 4-5 years ago which is fine and the presenters are actually ok too. My only issue is that it has a very American TV style to it which i am not too fond of, for example they cut to adverts just before something interesting happens and then play a recap after the adverts and then carry on with the show.

    I think the BBC was the best channel that Top Gear could have been on, having no adverts is a big deal since you actually end up with around an hour of content rather than 40 minutes of it. Either way i am interested to see what they do with the new Top Gear since it will probably be interesting. I think this series of proper Top Gear went way over the top on the cinematography, i wish they had done more of the longer shots like on previous series. I really hope that they dont try to make it "youth" style though, i cant stand it when they do crap like that.
     
  18. Koenigsegg

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    #14398 Koenigsegg, Mar 25, 2015
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  19. redrobin

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    I don't think we do. I found a few shady sources that state that it's been cancelled, which blows.

    It's ok, we have Top Gear Australia...
     
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