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Getting lag with default cars

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by Driv3r1142, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. Driv3r1142

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    **EDIT**; I get playable framerate with some default cars after figuring out how to save my settings, but the Moonhawk lags alot... Its the physics, because when I pause the physics, Lag goes away... On all cars. Is this my CPU or my GPU? And what do I need to get rid of whatever may be bottle-necking my CPU/GPU?

    I don't know how else to say it... I have several mods that dont lag at all, and then the default player cars lag like crazy...
    I know its not the terrain... Most maps run with no lag.

    I am thinking it may be my processor or graphics card... Here are my specs;

    Processor; AMD A8-5500 APU(3.20 GHz)(Can someone tell me if the APU is messing with my graphics? I got better frame-rates in games with integrated than with the GPU)
    GPU; MSI Radeon R9 270x GAMING 4GB DDR5(Think this is the issue; RAM speed.)

    Windows experience index; 5.9(hard drive speed is the problem here)

    What do I need to fix? I want to know the least that needs to be upgraded. I am running my settings on low, and changing them does nothing to the frame-rate.

    Can anyone help me figure out the lag? I would hate to spend money if I can do something to fix it with these specs...

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    OT, but can anyone tell me how to get the "badge" that says that you bought the game? I bought the game, and I thought I linked my forum account correctly, but Apparently not... Although I can access the sub-forums...
     
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  2. gabester

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    Your CPU is too slow to run more complex vehicles like the Moonhawk, unfortunately. AMD also does not run as well as Intel processors with our physics.
     
  3. Driv3r1142

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    well, I dont want to fry my GPU, so is there any hope to stay with AMD? And my motherboard doesnt support the Intel processors as far as I am aware of. And thanks for the info. And Can you answer why some mods give better FPS than others?

    EDIT; I dont have the money to replace my several year old HP PC. It has an AMD motherboard in it and I cant use Intel chipsets on it. Any hope as to a high end AMD processor?
     
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    Yes, a high end AMD processor could run the game smoothly, if it's the same socket as what your motherboard already supports. The reason some cars are laggier than others is because they are simply more complex - for example the Moonhawk has more parts, and the frame is completely separate from the body, whereas the frame and body share nodes on the D15 and H-Series to save on complexity and improve performance. The T-Series is immensely complex - it's just enormous, has a ton of parts, and a consistent node density needs to be kept for all vehicles so that collisions and deformation are consistent. Basically, the bigger the vehicle, the more load it puts on the CPU, because it has more nodes and beams.
     
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  6. Driv3r1142

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    @gabster; Ok. Any ideas for this socket?
    Socket type: FM2

    @logoster;
    I could use some better venting. But since I cant switch the case of a factory built PC... I may need some other methods of cooling the PC.

    *EDIT*; My motherboard can only support as high as the AMD A10-Series Quad-Core A10-5800K FM2 Black Edition APU - 3.8GHz, 4MB L2 Cache
    Will that work? Or will the APU get in the way... I need to know... I would rather spend a hundred or so instead of 2 grand to make a PC that meets all the BeamNG requirements...

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    I updated to latest version and I can see a FPS increase on my end... Still no moonhawk FPS increase...
     
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  7. gabester

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    That processor ought to give you an FPS bump, since it has 4 cores, a bigger L2 cache, and a much higher clock speed. It's very cheap though, which is odd.
     
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    Eh, It is dated tech... The FPS gain today from a steam force update though boosted my FPS greatly on default cars, excluding the moonhawk and the semi truck(hell, I crash the game with that mother trucker.) I cant find much about my APU... Said 4 cores aswell... But its really 2 >.< I so hope that isnt the case with this APU... because thats what I am going to go for. Thanks for the help guys... and is my video card fine for BeamNG? I have a 1400MHz mem clock, and I have heard 1600 MHz is recommended. Is it gonna make a huge difference? I can overclock my card to 1600, but I don't see any changes.
     
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    Your GPU is fine as long as your graphics are set relatively low. Your bottleneck right now is purely CPU.
     
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    Will I make the bottleneck worse with more speed? And I can run the game with decently high settings with my GPU.
     
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    No, you'll be fine. Faster processor won't do any harm as long as it works with your motherboard and is adequately cooled.
     
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    Upgrade yer cpu
     
  13. SixSixSevenSeven

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    None of the apus are really that good. Hence why they are cheap.

    Heard rumours some FX parts will be available in the FM2 socket at some point though.


    Building a rig just for BeamNG wouldn't be 2 grand BTW, but i t still would be a significant investment.
     
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    Since I am only able to upgrade to the A10 thanks to that stupid socket... Is it even worth upgrading to it? Gabster thinks it might boost my FPS...

    I have decent FPS with the game, but the 2 cars that made me want to buy the game are the 2 cars that lag the most... And they lag for alot of people.
     
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    It may run the game alot better than what you already have.
    but in my honest opinion, best off swapping motherboard for AM3+ or LGA1150, and if its a prebuilt that probably isnt possible, and welcome to one of the reasons prebuilts suck. Will cost an arm and a leg to make the complete swap, in which case you may simply upgrade what you have. Except its a prebuilt, so stock cooler (if they dont use AMD reference cooler) wont be up to it and power supply won't be up to it either so those need upgrading, those often dont fit prebuilts.
     
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  16. randomshortguy

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    Don't you mean LGA 1150?
     
  17. SixSixSevenSeven

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    aye
    ​not enough characters
     
  18. Driv3r1142

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    **EDIT** I have found a few AMD Athlon processors that use the FM2 socket... Can anyone tell me the difference between Richland and Trinity cores? Here is the list I found;

    http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A75 Pro4/index.us.asp?cat=CPU


    my PSU is not stock, so I have power for an upgrade... I believe its like 750 or 800 watts.
     
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  19. randomshortguy

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    Richland and Trinity are both "brands" of APU from AMD. Both are based Bulldozer architecture. Essentially the difference is like what an Pentium is to a Celeron. Not much. Just different names in different products with a few tweaks.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Accelerated_Processing_Unit#Feature_overview
     
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    **EDIT** The Moonhawk variant "The Terrible" runs on my system almost full frames... Yet the other versions are slower... Answers?

    original post below;
    Would it matter if I placed a Richland CPU/APU in a system that has a trinity processor inside it already?
     
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