Grip or Drift

Discussion in 'General Off-Topic' started by Dean Wang, Nov 25, 2017.

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Which one ?

  1. Grip

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  2. Drift

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  1. Dean Wang

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  2. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    Drifting is situational at best; a typical radial street tire has a theoretical optimum slip angle of only 5-12 degrees. Grip is almost always faster.
     
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  3. workclock1©

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    Grip. It's way better than seeing those fart can ricers drift around. I'd much prefer watching American Muscle cars go face-to-face in the quarter mile.
     
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  4. Dean Wang

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    HEL YAH
     
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  5. enjoyinorc6742

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    there is drifting then there is power sliding. drifting is for style but power sliding gets you through corners faster, it's basically what rally drivers do
     
  6. TechnicolorDalek

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    it's almost like different power train and surface conditions can result in different best practices

    desu
     
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  7. Nathan24™

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    Gripgripgripgripgripgripgripgripgripgripgrip
     
  8. Codeslamer

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    I mean, everyone else here picks grip. Why would I be any different? What sorta person would pick drift?

    Not me...

    ;-;
     
  9. Birboneroni

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    RWD Drift = shit 4 speed, still kinda fun but SHIT
    RWD Grip = OK
    AWD Grip = OK
    AWD Drift = good shit go౦ԁ sHit thats ✔ some goodshit rightthere right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self i say so thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ Good shit

    Depends on what surface and the corner. Drifting is only faster in tighter corners like hairpins because your car faces the exit a lot quicker which can give you a faster track out speed
     
  10. Car8john

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    Mythbusters covered this years ago, they are equal around a track with a even variety of hairpins and long corners
     
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  11. Sithhy™

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    Grip... because you can't dat acceleration without it :D
     
  12. DriftinCovet1987

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    I typically prefer grip racing, as it's faster, more efficient, and easier for me to control. However, I decided to run around WCA in a LeGran S V6 with the 3A to reproduce my style of Gymkhana driving: POS vehicle, sophisticated driving styles, and a whole load of medium-speed sideways.
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    I enjoyed getting that POS sideways all around the map, but my only question is...who would watch that? Who would watch an old FWD sedan go sideways at 20-30 miles per hour all day long, barely producing any smoke whatsoever and not sounding particularly amazing? Who would want to hear a 134-horsepower V6 stuck up to a 3A barely rev to 5,000 RPM? I know that I'd be absolutely terrible at attracting people with a Gymkhana style like this.
     
  13. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    It's all about packaging. I've had similar ideas myself; I'd call it "Dumbkhana" and mix the torture of a $500 Craigslist hooptie with a bunch of anti-commercial, anti-authoritarian nonsense. Oh, and whatever somewhat skilled driving I'm capable of.
     
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  14. Dean Wang

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    Dat 11 fps
     
  15. Copunit12

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    Why not both. That's why I love the moonhawk in beamng.drive. Its a older car and its got just the right amount of grip and drifting capability + respectable offloading capability's.
     
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    Gripallthewaynodoriftolife
     
  17. CarsAreLife77

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    I could really go for either, but it's so satisfying and fun to drift the sharp hairpin corner.
    Or any corner for that matter.
     
  18. Slammington

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    For the fastest times around a track, a mixture of grip and drift is ideal.
    In other words, slightly sliding the car around corners in a way that will maintain the tires' optimal slip angle for the maximum ammount of grip is the fastest way :)
    This means that a small ammount of understeer and a small ammount of oversteer can both be beneficial depending on the circumstances.

    Here is a visual representation (note that this car is likely already maintaining an excessive slip angle, as this looks significantly higher than 12 degrees)
     
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  19. Cory5503

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    Grip because top fuel funny cars would be nothing without it.
     
  20. Superchu Frostbite

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    I love drifting, but it is not as fast on tarmac, because of aerodynamics and tire wear. Unless a race is less than 2 laps, drifting will shred your tires. Pro drivers almost never push the car to the limits, because of the tires. Most drive 80-85% of the limit because it is much nicer on the tires. On the subject of aero, you can set up a grip car with spoilers to out corner a drift car with spoilers because of downforce. Downforce and drifting don’t really talk at the family gatherings anymore. Now, on gravel, dirt or snow (without studded tires) it is a different story. The tires don’t have enough static friction(grip) with the ground, so the kinetic friction(sliding) is preferable because it allows for a higher entrance and exit speed on certain types of turns.
     
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