How does the techdemo compare to the full version of BeamNG?

I’ve screwed around on BeamNG’s techdemo for a few years now, fairly recently got into RoR, and now I’m back on my unrealistic dream of running BeamNG. I can run the techdemo (with the Covet) on lowest settings and get ~10 FPS. If I were to run Gridmap, with the same Covet, what framerate could I expect? I appreciate any answers I get.

Specs, by the way:

Product Name
CQ60-615DX
Product Number
WA588UA#ABA
Microprocessor
2.2GHz Intel Celeron processor 900
Microprocessor Cache
1MB Cache
Memory
4096MB
Video Graphics
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M
Video Memory
Up to 797MB
Hard Drive
250GB (7200RPM)
Multimedia Drive
SuperMulti 8X DVD±R/RW with Double Layer Support
Display
15.6" Diagonal High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1366x768)
Fax/Modem
High speed 56k modem
Network Card
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet LAN
Wireless Connectivity

• 802.11b/g/n WLA

 

I would say about 15-20. The full game has a lot more optimization put into it, so it will run better.

Check out this link for more info

Or check out the techdemo faq in the wiki.

 

Dangit. You got me, well played. On a serious note, thanks.
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Okay, I also found this computer just doing a search for “gaming desktop” and this thing came up. It’s no supercomputer, but do you think that it could run Beam at 20-30 fps with 2-3 cars, assuming graphics are set to low-ish?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hp-Elite...9933&wl11=online&wl12=174133343&wl13=&veh=sem

Hp Elite 8300 Small Form Factor I7-3770 Quad Core 3.40Ghz 8Gb 1Tb Dvdrw Windows 10 Home 64 Bit Refurbished by: MICOMP Brand: HP Model: Elite 8300 Form Factor: Small Form Factor Processor: Intel i7-3770 3.40Ghz Quad Core Installed Memory: 8GB Installed Hard Drive: 1TB Optical Drive: DVD-RW Drive Graphics/Video Controller: Integrated Intel HD VGA Graphics - VGA Port Other Ports: 8 USB Ports, Audio In/Out, Ethernet Port Operating System: Windows 10 Home Premium 64 BIT

Integrated graphics, I know, not great, but for the low price of $275 it’s pretty appealing.

 

My friend runs Beam on a similar machine at about 15 fps on gridmap on “low” settings.

It then proceeded to overheat.

Go on ebay or Craigslist (if you’re in the us) and find a used machine with a half decent processor and an external gpu (750ti is fine) and run it on that. Avoid new, store-bought computers.

 

You don't need to pay extra from HP name, those are not so special, especially for gaming.

With that money, 2nd hand no brand desktop PC (not a micro or mini) would be best performance per dollar.

 

The tech demo hasn't been updated since its release and is using a different engine. It's very different.
All I can say is that I have an amd 8350 and a GTX960, running on 3 1080 monitors and I get ~45fps on high. On a single screen on low I get around 150fps.
That's also using the craptastic 2gb version, not the 4gb one. But yeah, you could probably buy something used. That HP has a decent CPU, but you won't get very far on its integrated graphics.

 

Thanks for the input.

Also, a Dell XPS M1530 appeared out of thin air, which is pretty darn neat, but how do you guys think it would run Beam?

I’m getting about 20fps on Gridmap (techdemo)
Specs:
32 bit Windows Vista (that would have to be upgraded, right?)
Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 at 2.20 GHz
4 gig of ram
So if I were to downgrade almost every possible downgradable setting, how do you guys think it’d run? Also, if you had any idea how it’d run on a more complicated map like ECUSA I’d appreciate it.
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Alright, thanks.

 

Well, Jesus, Win7 barely runs on 4gb, and 64 bit is lightyears faster than 32.
To be honest, the last time I had those specs was before I built my underpowered PC now, which was running WinXP. I'll tell you I got like 5fps on that.

 

Hmm, okay. I’m getting mixed feedback here, and I’d like to believe the people that say it’s possible. Just to clarify, the full version is faster than the techdemo, right?

edit: this is the thing that’s kinda a bummer. I don’t have the knowledge or expertise to really dive into things and then I get mixed results when I get opinions from people. I’m aware my hardware doesn’t meet the minimum requirements, but I’m not looking for amazing performance or graphics. 20 or 30 fps with super low graphics and 2 cars will make me happy.

 

They did offer free Win10 quite some time ago, many people did upgrade and then reverted back to original, so they got that free license of 10 to use sometime in future. There used to be loophole to get free win10 after that, I don't know if that too has ended, but you could search for how to update win10 free from the net and see if trick is still available.

Now on tech demo, I could choose graphics options, but those did not have any effect, while on full BeamNG you can actually get really lowly details.

i3-6100 with iGPU will run the game even up to 60fps at times, on gridmap that will run 60fps almost solid at lowest details and you probably can get computer with such cpu used quite cheap. NOTE: 720p, you can forget running 1080p with iGPU.

DirectX11 is required though, but maybe your OS has it?


Between lowest and high graphics I have only 100fps difference (180fps to 280fps) on gridmap because CPU single core processing power limits more than GPU after you get 1060 6GB or maybe 1070 with fastest single core performance CPU (8086K), even 1050Ti can perform fine with normal details on most maps, but that is something like 8x computing power of iGPU in Skylake and that iGPU is something probably better than your posted setups, with CPU single core performance being far better.

20-30fps with two cars at ECA, 720p with lowest graphics, that is about where i3-6100 with iGPU sits on, maybe 40fps at absolutely most.

Play with this site for a while, there is ton of different CPU and GPU options to choose from, so you can get idea of what kind of performance level to except with different parts, you can compare to that i3-6100 and see how many percent your chosen part is of i3-6100 to get some idea where FPS might be:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-8600K/3939vs3941

 

Thanks for your answer, unfortunately both offers have ended, and I don’t know that my old Dell could even run 10.

I can choose graphics options, and there’s a very substantial difference from High to Low.

I’d rather play BeamNG on my XPS vs building a new computer, so an i3 is likely out of the question. Doing a little bit of digging, my Core 2 Duo is less powerful than an i3, which is unfortunate, because that means I don’t really meet the requirements in a few places, which I presume will be the same for my graphics card. 1080p isn’t important to me, I’m playing on a laptop, and heck, I used to play in windowed mode on the techdemo, so I’m not used to the finest quality of gaming.

I believe I have DirectX9, but I would have to upgrade quite a few things on my laptop to run Beam anyways (software-wise, and hopefully not hardware).

I’m sure my graphics and processor are nothing special, so yeah I’ll have to do some research there.

25 fps on ECA with lowest graphics doesn’t sound too bad to me, the only issue is I don’t have a i3. :/
I suppose I could disable vehicle collisions, but that would be a bummer, it’s a pretty big part of the game.

Thanks for the website, I’ll tinker with that for a while.
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Oh boy, more computer stuff I’m about to throw at all of you.
Yes, it’s refurbished, so I’m sorta buying new, but it’s $220, which is in my budget, and it has an i5. It’s certianly more powerful than anything I have now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fast-Dell-...l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xintel+i3.TRS0#viTabs_0

 

I can't really help you much, but try to find something from atleast 2015/2016 that has an i5 from the 4000 series or higher (so i5-4xxx etc.). It shouldn't be THAT expensive & should give you some good performance in BeamNG considering it comes with a graphics card that isn't integrated

 

I found this on eBay. Not quite 4000, but it’s close-ish. It doesn’t need to be a supercomputer, just something that’ll run stuff at 30-40 fps on low or normal settings.

 

I'm a budget gamer and always try to get the best bang for the buck. I'm also a computer consultant and builder. $250 is really only going to buy you a duplicate of what you already have. I run into that problem all the time. The main problem to solve, is where is the bottle neck in your hardware?

In your situation, I see a the integrated graphics as the slowest part by far, you need a dedicated card to run any 3D game efficiently. CPU power only comes into play when you are running more than 3-4 cars. The OS is concerning, because I don't know what its even capable of anymore, as far as running 64bit programs and DX11. You should look at getting (something with) windows 7 64bit at least.

If your current PC has a PCI-Ex16 port and can run DX11 and 64bit, all you need is a new graphics card. If you do get an off the shelf PC, make sure it has these prerequisites.

When buying graphics cards I always look at this list first to find the best value. That site is also good for checking values for CPUs, Memory and hard drives. Look for cards with a value over 30 and G3D of over 4000 and within your budget. The value is derived from the average G3DMark score/price. My last card was a RX460@$90, which has a G3D Mark of 4300 and was a value of almost 50. The GTX1050 and RX560 are good examples, and can be found for cheap used, just beware of off-brand counterfeits on eBay. Don't be fooled by super cheap low end cards, many of them have processors slower than integrated graphics.

I planned on building a new PC last spring, but the GPU market was still going crazy from the bitcoin frenzy. Now things are settling down and looking more reasonable for buying graphics cards. Im aiming at a GTX1060 3GB right now. Its the only card around a value of 40 and in the $200 price range price.

 

I agree with your post, but one thing I need to point out, that is CPU power, single core computing power is something one has to keep keen eye on as that is currently most limiting factor of performance in BeamNG.

For example slowest points on maps are equally slow with 1050Ti and 1080, because i7-6700 is not fast enough, it is barely 60fps on high details on some maps.

So while CPU power usually is needed only with several cars, when running higher graphics quality single core performance is key factor, but if keeping shadows off and light quality at low or lowest, that gives enough room so that even weaker single core power is enough.

Try to get 6GB model of 1060 if possible, there was at least one case where there was big slowdowns bit randomly when vram usage did go above 3GB.

 

Ive never run anything lower than 3Ghz, so never ran into that problem, but luckily cor2duo CPUS are dirt cheap, even for high frequencies, just upgraded one recently. Compatibility is the only problem for that, you need to research what the motherboard can handle.

The 1060 6GB is what Id want ideally but its price is more, putting it in competition with the RX580 which is $50 cheaper and better overall.

 

Thanks so much for your input and website, I’ll definitely look into it. I’m not sure whether I have a PCI-Ex16 port, a google search didn’t help much. I also don’t know if I can run 64bit or DX11, I have DX9 for the techdemo. Now I have some more graphics card research to do. I believe my XPS M1530 has a nVidia 8400 something-or-other.
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I actually have a Core 2 Duo in my current laptop, do you think it’d work for BeamNG?

I don’t know if that would work with my laptop, but thank you.

 

Oh I did not meant that you should get 1060 6GB, certainly not would work with your laptop!

Core2Duo, which model? Q6600 would probably be quite ok coupled with some okish GPU, but I guess you will have something else. If it is P8600, then it is not good, I had one and it was really slow for a Core2Duo. Might be best you check that userbenchmarks website and what kind of scores that CPU is getting.

CPU Z can show exact model if nothing else tells it.

One thing you need to check is that GPU is DirecX 11 capable, because while tech demo runs on DirectX 9, full game needs DX11.

 

you can activate windows by phone which is free
also 650ti+i5 3570k(32gb ram oc'ed at 1866mhz)ecusa+normal settings+dynamic reflections=36-40fps

 

I figured you didn’t mean my laptop, but with my knowledge of computers, I wasn’t entirely sure. I believe my Core2Duo is a T7500 or something, and it was new in 2007 so I assume it probably isn’t adequate, but maybe.
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That’s not too bad.