Outdated Lada Car Pack V1.2

Discussion in 'Land' started by Nekkit, Nov 24, 2019.

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Release as one or 2 packs? First will include 01 till 05 and second will contain others.

Poll closed Dec 2, 2019.
  1. One whole mod

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  1. Nekkit

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    as ive said 124 is almost the same as 2101, and 2103 was based on 2101
     
  2. boronat1

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    hey nekkit, is there any posibility to make the fiat 125 1970 rear lights? i can send you photos of the car if needed !
     

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    Вы планируете глупые замены двигателя как 2JZ?)

    ссылка в этом видео

     
  4. HadACoolCar

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    Please make one of those drift missile configuration so i can drift at 150 kmh =)))
     
  5. Nekkit

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    already done :D
     
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    screenshot_2019-12-09_21-51-01.png
     
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  8. Nekkit

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    Uhh so, a little bit of information right here. 0.18 broke some stuff which is currently being fixed, so dont expect any progress posts till friday at least. Good news is im a bit ahead of the plans so it wont affect release date much.
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  9. HadACoolCar

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    perfect
     
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    Cool!
     
  13. Spiicy

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    you better start making some garage 54 based skins haha
     
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  14. ladafan01

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    Just noticed this.
    What will the chassis strength be based on?
    The 1982 crash test or the 2011 crash test?
    I noticed you said "soviet vehicles and Fiats that were developed and produced alongside with lada on the same base." and then list the 125.
    The 125 is quite different, it's based on the older Fiat 1300/1500 and has leaf springs in the rear, plus some other differences, as far as I know the windshield is the same, but other than that nothing in common.
    Also - the Fiat 124 is quite a bit weaker than 01-07 Ladas.
    I think you have done your research already, but in case you got some wrong info, here's this article:
    https://www.zr.ru/content/articles/484752-istorija_zhigulej_ochevidnyje_i_neverojatnyje/
    And this for myths and truth:
    https://www.kolesa.ru/article/kopeechnye-skazki-mify-i-fakty-o-vaz-2101
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    Lada and Fiat 125 share almost nothing.
    Here's the 125:

    And here's the 124(on which the 01-07 Ladas are based - look at the rear suspension)

    Not to mention the wheelbase, front suspension, driveshafts, body panels. Nothing in common other than the engine(only 124 and 125, the 2101 got a completely new russian engine) and according to some people the windshield.
     
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    That's pretty much a myth.

    2101 was literally a rebadged 124 built with FIAT tooling, just with some adaptations to better suit the harsher russian climate, but which also exhibited more evident quality issues than the european counterpart due to the cheaper steel used during the early production run and assembly issues attributable to the relatively inexperienced workers of the Tolyatti plant.

    Still, the 2101 was deemed a fairly advanced and well-built car compared to other local products. Much less so when the 2103 was exported in Western Europe in the '70s and only gained customers thanks to the aggressive pricing, not certainly for the (admitedly poor) quality of execution...

    Sure, later models were improved significantly and became certainly stronger than the original 124, but that's not really saying much. By the time development was carried on by Lada-VAZ alone, the 124 had been discontinued by quite some time. You cant really compare a 2012 Lada 2107 to a discontinued car of the late '60s...
     
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  16. ladafan01

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    Translate this and read it:
    "Выдающийся автомобильный конструктор Данте Джакоза оставил такие воспоминания: «Испытания „124-ки“ также проводились в России и оказались весьма полезны для приспособления автомобиля для нужд этой необъятной страны. Тесты, проходившие на специальном полигоне неподалеку от Москвы на огромном куске земли, были невероятно жесткими».

    И знал, о чем писал. Первые образцы, поступившие в нашу страну в июле 1966 года, рассыпались на дорогах Дмитровского полигона уже через 5 тыс. км. В панике примчалась итальянская делегация. Джакоза щупал пальцами русские булыжники на «бельгийской мостовой». Спустя неделю Тараненко вызвали в министерство: «В двухнедельный срок составить документацию по полигоновским профилям для передачи итальянцам!» Последние без промедления построили нашу «бельгийку» у себя на заводе в Мирафьори.

    Доработанные автомобили (их в НАМИ обозначили порядковыми номерами 7, 8 и 9) прибыли в СССР оперативно, в ноябре 1966 года. У них был существенно усилен кузов. После 12 тыс. км дорожных испытаний кузова образцов №7 и №8 дали всего по пять трещин против 17 у №5 и 24 у №4 (образцы №6 и 9 предназначались для лабораторных испытаний). К слову, у одного из этих горемык выявили трещину длиной 150 мм в месте соединения крыши с центральной стойкой кузова, а потом стойка оторвалась.

    Итальянцы также изменили конструкцию балки заднего моста (на прежней лопнул картер и шли трещинами крепления реактивной штанги).

    И все равно замечания были, причем не все они обуславливались особенностями эксплуатации в СССР. Так, постоянно летели резиновые буферы передней подвески. На ходе сжатия при соприкосновении с верхним рычагом из-за непродуманного расположения они нагружались не только на сжатие, но и на сдвиг.

    Камнем преткновения стали тормоза. Итальянцы, видимо, очень гордились задними дисковыми узлами «124-го» и упорно отказывались заменять их на барабанные, несмотря на то что в наших условиях тормозные накладки первых истирались всего за 400 — 800 км. Массовый «падеж» накладок начинался зимой, когда дороги полигона посыпали песком. Выбрасываемый из-под передних колес, он попадал на задние тормозные механизмы. Предложенные итальянцами грязевые щитки не помогали. Приговор задним дисковым тормозам вынесли в 1968 году после сравнительных испытаний с Autobianchi Primula, Fiat 1500 и Peugeot 204."
    actually, here it is already translated:
    https://www.carthrottle.com/post/zdzerd3/
     
  17. Nekkit

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    Strength is based on latest tests and all things like leafs on fiat, wheelbase, etc. Its all done.
     
  18. GotNoSable!

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    What exactly did 0.18 break?
     
  19. Nekkit

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    already fixed, some materials were weird.
     
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