Less or more for the CPU?

Hi, I'm planning a build for Christmas and I need some advice, I use this game probably too much and was wondering on how this would do in terms of this game's performance:

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 (probably going to be overclocked)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Black 8GB 1600 MHz
Case: Novatech Midi Tower case
GPU: I need some opinions... i have £220 to spend, also put your recommendations
SSD: Samsung 840 Evo 250GB
HDD: Western Digital red 500GB (my dad had one lying around still in its packaging)
PSU: Corsair CX600
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (from a cheap site called go2keys.com, used them before and were great)

I was wondering going a bit cheaper on some stuff and getting a i5 4670K, I will only need this for gaming and some light work loads.


Please leave you opinions

Many thanks,
Cameron

 

That CPU won't work with that motherboard, it's for AMD. My FX 6300 does okayish with 30FPS with the Moonhawk (the most intense car ATM). The T75 truck does overtax it though.

EDIT: I'm an idiot, misread Z97 as 970A. The mobo you have is for intel, but the rest of my post stands.

If you plan to use this computer for other games, get the FX6300, and the R9 290 just had a very attractive price cut.

If it's only for Beam, try to pick out an LGA 1150 motherboard with a 3ghz+ Haswell Refresh/Devil's Canyon i5 and get a weaker GPU like the GTX750ti/760 or the Radeon R9 270x/280. The nVidia cards give better thermal and power efficiency but the AMD stuff is slightly more powerful per pound, especially at high resolutions (excluding the new GTX 970/980, but those are a little out of your price point I think.)

 

wat:

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4958#ov

clearly states intel, and is clearly an intel socket, how the hell did you get amd from that

EDIT: oh, nvm, saw your edit

 

It is a LGA1150 MOBO and upgrade-able to anywhere up to an I7-4790K in the future. The reason I bought this CPU is because of the upgrade-ability to all the way up to a very powerful I7 and the fact that it is probably the cheapest decent gaming CPU you can find at only £50. And with the FX6300 getting 30FPS with the Moonhawk, I can get 25 as it is with my completely f**ked Phenom II. I did want a AMD at first but after a lot of research I concluded that a Intel solution would be best... I was planning to get either a Intel i5 4460 or a 4690K but they were WAY out of my price range, especially the 4690K. I will be upgrading this machine in the future but for now I'll think I will stick for the Pentium just because then I can get the best SSD and GPU I can. I appreciate the help though and am very grateful.

Cameron

 

Get a 270, it's a great mid-end GPU at a very reasonable price.
As for the CPU, it's a Pentium... Just buy a 4690K as soon as you can afford it.

 

Again I was thinking spending more money, probably next Christmas, and getting some sort of i5 or i7 depending on the price. One of my friends has the Pentium so I logged into my steam account on his PC and installed BeamNG. It ran better than I expected for a cheap processor and is unbelievably overclockable even with the stock cooler. I will be getting some sort of Coolermaster heat sink and maybe a EVGA PSU instead... As for the 270, its one of those in the middle class that is very good value for money but not really as much performance as I want. I'm going to shop around for better CPUs though, maybe a lower class i5...

Cameron

 

if you go air-cooled the best cpu cooler you can get is the cooler master hyper 212 evo (at least IMHO), only about $37 as well

 

I was probably going to use that anyway, it has had some very good reviews, and also BeamNG wont start on my computer now... Only 1 more month... Only 1 more month....

Cameron

PS: Has anyone invented a time machine? Just wondering if I could go to the future and bring back the new PC, thanks.

 

The 270 runs every game I play at over 60 FPS in 1080p on high settings. Fine for me.

That's what I'm getting. There are better air coolers, but for the price you can just get a low-end water cooler which performs better.

 

BTW I want it to run games WAY into the future, i'm talking at least 2-3 years, maybe not on high, but at least running at an ok FPS. They are good value for money and they are good cards but I'm going to spend £200 on a GPU, and unless you are buying a gold covered 270, it is not going to cost £200

Cameron

 

also please stop signing your name, we can tell who's post is who's you don't need to tell us :/

 

Apologies, I'm just strange sometimes... Don't know if you can tell from my profile pic

 

Pretty sure the Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 is at £220 right now. I also respect the idea of starting with the cheapest passable CPU you can and not go average all round, I wasn't aware you intended to upgrade so soon after the initial build. Most people asking here don't have a stable source of income so we usually recommend more balanced or CPU-biased setups.

 

Get i5 4690k and R9 280X, you will be safe for next 2 years, at least CPU-wise. However, to use k's overclocking potential, you need Z97 motherboard (I know it doesn't have to be Z97 but it will be compatible with Broadwell processors and it's simply not worth buying already obsolete products). Also, these components will yield a stable, 60 FPS on any map with virtually any vehicle in BeamNG (or even 2). Speaking from my own experience

 

There's no point in buying a high-end card that will be outdated in 2 or 3 years too. Think about this: If you buy a mid-end card now, you'll have to replace it in 2-2.5 years in order to max out the latest games. If you buy a high-end card now, in 2 or 3 years it will have similar performance to a by then mid-end card and it will be outdated since new technologies come out every few years, so you'll have to replace it too. Think when DirectX11 came out. You could have the best card from a year ago, and you had to replace it anyway because it wouldn't run DX11.

I'd recommend a 760 if your budget is £200. It will run everything at 60FPS until it's already old in 2/3 years' time. If you buy, say, a 970, at best you'll get 6 more months until it's already outdated. Remember, mid-end cars in 3 years will probably be more powerful than a 980.

So actually, you should buy a high-end CPU from the beginning and keep it. A CPU will last for ages, some friends of mine have C2D gaming rigs that can run the latest games as well as I can. This is simply because CPU demand isn't increasing much and CPUs aren't getting a lot more powerful. A 4690K is barely any better than a 3 year old 2500K in most games. A GPU, however, gets old in 2-3 years no matter how high-end it is. Of course, you can still use an old high-end GPU, but it won't support many technologies that are gaming standards by now.

 

Here is the way this is going to work, for me anyway. I have got £600 from my parents at Christmas, which is about £150 more than usual but I think they can see how desperate I am now. I talked to an IT friend of my dad's that has worked on computers since DOS was only starting to get outdated and still being used by a lot of people. He said to me that the GPU will do a lot of the work in games, baring in mind I do play this a lot but also a lot of other games. He said get the best GPU you can find for now and either Crossfire/SLI it somewhere down the line. He also said that most of the time games don't use more than 2 (sometimes 4) at a time. So the overall advice is get a strong dual core and upgrade it in a year or 2 (BTW next christmas is the time I'm hopefully getting the new CPU/GPU) so yeah. That's what I was told... And as for the 760, I dont know where you live but 760s are around £160, the 770 is closer to £200 than the 760, unless you go for something like a Superclocked one, but still they are less than £200.

 

What I'm saying is just get a 760 because a better card will also be outdated by the time you need to change it. Also the idea of going SLI is terrible, many games lack SLI/crossfire support.
Once again, just invest in a proper CPU and forget about replacing it for a long time.
Then buy a GPU that runs everything you need, and change it when it's outdated in a few years. 2-3 years should be more than enough to save up for a mid-end GPU.

But just do what you want. I gave you my advice, it's none of my business if you waste your money on a Pentium and I honestly don't care.

 

>CPU: Intel Pentium G3258


just buy a competent cpu, learn from me

 

I disagree. The 760 is already ouddated if you're targeting 60 FPS. I just replaced it with a 970, and the difference is huge. Double the framerate or more in most games for only $50 more than I paid for my 760 at launch a little over a year ago. The 970 is an absolute bargain if you can find one at MSRP. Unfortunately, they are out of OP's budget. Seeing as the 960 is showing up on shipping manifests to retailers, it will be launching soon. To buy a 760 now would be stupid.