Need help! Is this PC build good?

Hey guys, just wondering if this PC build will be good, and can you tell me what fps beamng drive will average on? Also please give me some tips on building my PC. https://pcpartpicker.com/b/ghNNnQ I would really appreciate help because I am building this in the summer! Thanks.

 

Get a GTX 970, swap CPU for an 4690K, get the H110I GTX cooler, you don't need 32GB of RAM, go for 16, as well as get a Maximus VII Hero board if you need ROG, if not, you'll be fine with a Z97-AR, and you'll be saving a few hundred dollars, as well as having similar performance, more in a couple of cases..

 

CPU: get the i5 because the i7 for gaming isn't worth the extra 5 fps and you can overclock it to make the i5 perform better than the i7
Cooler: the h100i GTX is a great cooler but get the h110i gt. It is 280mm so it will perform better and since they are 140mm fans the fans can blow more air through the rad
Motherboard: it is not worth spending $300 on a motherboard. The Msi Z97 gaming 7 has the same basic features as the asus board u had and it is WAY cheaper.
Ram: No no no... 32gb is overkill. Make sure to get 16gb for gaming and the ram will look good on the motherboard at least the one I chose for you
Storage: the ssd is good but get an m.2 ssd. It is over twice the speed as a normal ssd. I checked on the MSI website and the M.2 ssd is compatable. The storage drive is great nothing wrong with it.
GPU: the 960 is an ok card but get the 970. It is obviously faster than the 960, has more ram, and is the best GPU for the money. I have the GTX 960 paired with the i5 4690 and it is great but I wish I could have gotten the 970.
Case: the 760t is in my opinion one of the best cases but it is expensive for the money. I won't change it because it may be you preference.
Power supply: Go with corsair for the psu. I used corsair on my pc and my dads PC and they are quiet, efficient, and reliable. Can't go wrong with corsair at all.



Here is the link to the updated build. It is much more with it than the one u put together honestly http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6sGjQ7

 

I never understood this argument. Couldn't you overclock an i7 and get more performance than any i5?

 

Yes, but only if you want to spend money for basically no reason...

 

The i7s for some reason don't take as nicely to overclock as nicely as the i5, not sure why, might be hyperthreading or something dicking with it. You can certainly overclock them though.

 

Clock for clock their performance in games is very close. The i7-4790K is clocked higher than the i5-4690K, but the latter can be overclocked easily with a decent cooler.

 

Thank you! But I've heard that there is a Vram issue with the gtx 970. Is it still worth it?

 

You should be fine

 

There's no VRAM issue, because of the way it handles memory the last 512mb are much slower. Unless you're gaming in 4K or 3x1080, it will not be a problem at all.

 

With a 970 you are dependent on Nvidia with their driver optimizations. To be sure either get an AMD 290X or a Nvidia GTX 980. Also others have already mentioned it: Overpriced board, too much RAM, you could save there and get a decent GPU instead. I would'nt save on those extra threads of an i7 but that depends on your workload. If it is only for gaming an i5 should be fine, if you're rendering videos or code stuff then an i7 should be better.

 

What? The GTX 970 doesn't depend on driver optimization, just think of it as a 3.5GB card rather than a 4GB. It's not like you'll be using more than 3.5 gaming on 1080/1440p anyway, so it only affects 4K or multiple screen SLI setups.

 

You wanna think performance per dollar. i7 doesn't do it well in this regard. In gaming you'd see basicly the same performance as an i5 equivalent.

So the extra money you spend on i7's marginally better performance you could instead spend it on a better GPU and get considerably better performance overall.

Besides, the i7's features over i5 doesn't benefit gaming. So that usage doesn't justify the additional cost. Though, BeamNG.drive does utilize the extra threads in i7 (Hyper Threading) and thus work better with i7 (as far as I remember).

 

RAM usage is independent to the resolution you use. You can fill those 3.5GB with Skyrim Ultra HD textures on a 1024x768 no problems. It's the usecase that matters! And RAM on a graphics card cannot be upgraded! So instead of buying fake 4GB you should consider buying actual 4GB.

And GTA 5 is a wonderful example because it has just been released. It runs good on current graphics cards. Even lower ones. But one of its limiting factors is: GPU memory. So better have more RAM than fake RAM that leads to stuttering.

The best thing is when i started arguing in this forums on hardware questions people have suggested to buy 2GB cards because who needs 4GB right? Right?

 

*VRAM. Your post doesn't make sense unless you know you mean something else that what is written.

 

There's no "fake RAM". Part of the VRAM is slower, you are extremely unlikely to use it at resolutions <1440p (you can, but it would have a shit ton of HD textures), no big deal.

The GTX 980 is over $200 more expensive for the 970. Way out of budget.
The 290X is a good option, although I'd rather have a 970 myself for Nvidia features such as CUDA, PhysX, or shadowplay.

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=970+stutter

Highly unlikely. I see.

I like how dis trhaed derails again because of some smartasses. When i'm talking about GPU memory / RAM of course i mean VRAM. How dare of me. If he saves said 200$ on the mainboard and the system RAM he can totally get the 980 and have fully working 4GB of VVVVVVVRAM. Where's the problem?

Oh and speaking of "CUDA, PhysX, or shadowplay". I'm having an 780 and use none of these features. Usecase people! USECASE. The OPs usecase is missing here. So you just throw stuff (a.k.a. your opinion) into the thread and let it be. Instead you again jump the u-wrong-no-u-wrong-shit again.

You can't replace the RAM on a graphics card. Fact. How to counter that? Buy cards with more RAM. Or with working RAM.

 

All of the VRAM is there, and when it states 4GB, it simply states 4GB of VRAM total. That doesn't mean it all is the same speed, and the 512MB that you won't be likely to use normally, still works, albeit much slower than the other 3.5GB.

A forum is made of a userbase, and the userbase is made of lots of unique members, who have their own opinions.

You will never find a discussion anywhere on the internet, and even IRL, that doesn't include opinions from the various participants. That's the basis of a discussion.

 

If the slower VRAM is so bad, then just buy a 290X. I stated an opinion, I like having Shadowplay and PhysX makes some things better in games. You don't care, fine then, buy AMD.

The GTX 970 is a perfectly fine card, close to AMD levels of price/performance. The GTX 980, not really worth it, for just a bit more you can find a 295x2 which is a much better card (dual GPU, but almost every modern game supports CFX).

 

To answer your original question, everything is overkill except for the GPU, which is not realy powerfull enough if you want to run maxed out.