I think there should be a specific forums section for paid mods, and rules for those paid mods. This could help prevent things like IRL content paid mods, Monthly Subscriptions, and other questionable practices (these are all examples, not necessarily actual rules). What do you guys think? Please keep negative comments (I.e "SHUT UP NERD!", "Nobody cares ", and "SHUT THE F*** UP!") to a minimum. This is supposed to be a civil conversation not a zoo.
Paid mods are a good thing, mod quality standards would be different if we wouldn’t have paid mods. Let the creators of the paid mods get some money for their time. If you’ve spent hundreds of hours working on a mod you’ll understand. Paid meshslaps are bad but I think high quality paid mods are completely fine. Mostly they’re under 4$.
the devs have stated they want to remain neutral to paid mods so them adding a paid mods section is the last thing theyd do --- Post updated --- this is quite rich coming from you considering youve started drama multiple times
My suggestion is fully paid mods must be fully scratch made like lucasbe and lj74. If the mod borrows things from the base game like model but heavily reworked to a good standard like the Burnside Windsor it should be paid early access. Just my 2 cents and up for debate.
your talking about we need rules and such why do you think the irl mods are called illegal they break the rules if people are going to break the rules off platform then the beaming site rules make no difference whenever there is a paid mod that has a thread on the forums and it is illegal there is immediately people pointing it out and even if there is specific rules set up about it there will still be those that break them and they will be removed or ignored like they currently are so what would specific rules actually accomplish aside from pissing people off because there will be people that don't agree with some of rules
Not a day goes by there isn't useless nonsense about paid mods on the forums. If a mod being paid annoys you so much, just don't pay attention to it. Turn off your computer. Go outside. You don't go to a restaurant and complain because your meal isn't free, right?
I expected people to start it, yes. I made this thread to avoid cluttering up normal threads and hopefully limit drama.
This really isn't a useless conversation. It's (supposed to be) a civil conversation about paid mods. Your latter point falls apart as it's a more of a physical product.
If you don't like it, don't buy them. You aren't compelled to buy mods and creators are free to charge for their labor, for better or worse. This topic has been absolutely hashed to death, let it be.
there is nothing that will help prevent fraud, and its not like its only in the beam community, if you want fraud like irl mods stopped go to a court and sue every person that sells scam mods etc. problem solved
I think this issue should be solved by the community rather than the BeamNG team. People who create paid mods could come together and publish a thread with rules/suggestions about pricing, quality standards, and platforms for distribution (Ko-fi, Gumroad etc.) People could post promos for their paid mods under the thread and direct others to their own threads. Maybe a third party organization like BeamMP should create a website exclusively for paid mods? I don’t think a dedicated section is necessary. Also, if the BeamNG team officially supports paid mods, it might encourage more modders to go for paid mods, which could lead to a decline in free mods and the end of volunteer-based projects. Anyway sorry if i rambled on. However, i think an even bigger issue is the subscription system. Keeping track of and updating forum mods is a tedious and challenging process because, unlike repo mods, you can’t update them all at once. I believe forum mods should somehow be integrated into a subscription system like Steam Workshop. Moreover, when I uninstall the game, i would also have to re-subscribe to the repo mods. It would be amazing if both my repo and forum mods were integrated with my BeamNG forum account. This way, I could simply log into my BeamNG account and restore all my subscriptions when I reinstall the game.
We don’t complain specifically because the meal wasn’t free, however if the meal was bad or otherwise not up to expectations, people are within their rights to complain. Whether that be sending the food back, leaving the restaurant a bad review on google and/or simply not eating there anymore. The same thing goes for mods, if a mod doesn’t meet expectations or it’s straight up bad, people are completely within their rights to complain. If they find the mod to be underwhelming, they can say they won’t buy from that creator again. Doing this serve as a warning to others if a mod may not be worth the price. This also goes for lack of updates since if real world money is involved and the mod breaks, we expect timely updates and fixes
I think I was misunderstood here. What i meant is that the system should work like Steam Workshop. Subscriptions would be managed through the website (like the Workshop), but updates would be automatically applied to the game. Since real cars are being made on the forums and there could be copyright issues, real cars cannot be downloaded through the in game repo.