Retry commissioning someone to make cars I want

Well since everyone got all angry and closed that thread I'll post it here. That is unless the "General Discussion" isn't the right place either...

After seeing all the back and forth between people wanting thousands and others saying they might as well make something on the side here is my conclusion. If anyone has any cars they are working on and may be interested in starting. I may be able to offer some motivation in exchange for e.g. deadlines, testing privileges, etc. Then you can PM me. I'm not going to shell out thousands to have you make me cars. If you are gonna make it anyway, why not get me involved. If not, at least I offered.

 

inb4 crapstorm

 

Drop it. Just No.

 

Maybe the only time this is an acceptable post:
​STAHP NAOW PLS

 

The last thread got locked because everyone was fighting. What makes you think this thread will be any different? But seriously, if you have car ideas, post those ideas in the suggestions thread. Someone might like them enough to make one.

 

A little advice: If people didn't like it, don't post the same god damn thread AGAIN.

 

umm, if your thread was closed, you shouldn't make a new one

 

500 usd kthx

 

I can beat your offer.

I'll do it for $450.

 

the thread author did nothing wrong. it was the other posters who chose to argue.

you guys can joke all you want, but i'd bet the author is getting PM's from people who know how to convert vehicles from other games reasonably well. he'll soon have a few nice shiny vehicles for a few hours of someone elses work. there's no real reason to even reply to this thread, as long as the thread exists then the author will keep getting PM's from interested users. expressing your disinterest here does nothing.

 

I'm 100% serious. 435 is final offer.

 

I will do it for 900

 

that's illegal

 

I think the communities lack of understanding is the main problem here.

Jbeaming is not a simple task, and there's not a chance it will take a few hours, this is the main reason people are fighting with us because we say no one will do it for $100, and you guys don't listen. No one seems to understand the time and effort that goes into creating n/b for a vehicle..

Unless someone steals a model, then plots it on the Grand Marshal, he will not have a " few nice shiny vehicles for a few hours of someone elses work.", Sorry.

 

And the arguing begins again...

 

I totaly see now how i was the problem on the other thread. lol...

 

There is no way to pay someone $100 for this sorta work. Art assets are expensive to make, hence the visual model is a few grand. Making a Beam structure is simple depending on how many parts you want to make. Its the amount of tuning and refining you have to do that makes a node/beam structure a $500 task. The prerequisite for this is having a very very good understanding of the physical properties of the object you want to simulate and that makes you a specialist. Then you need to also be skilled enough to do that with Jbeam.

To clarify, I'll try and give you an idea of what its like to take on a vehicle project. So when you make it you have weeks and weeks of watching vehicles crash and comparing and replicating the behaviors of the vehicle's structure and the individual parts as best you can. Only when it looks like the real thing in slow motion can you be satisfied that its realistic. But you also need to sort out the driving part of things so you need to make sure that the suspension behaves like the real thing. Off to look at the car in question being driven and trying to match up various high-stress scenarios.

You'd have suspension tuning to do, you're going to have to sort out crash structures, you need to figure out how to hold parts on as solidly as you can to a vehicle but also make sure they tear off realistically. This means you have to make sure there are relationships between beams and how they're to break. The node/beam structure won't behave realistically if you aren't approximating roughly the model you make. Drowsysam's helicopters and plane's control and lifting surfaces currently have beams in them that represent supports that aren't there in real life and as a result you find that yes, those components aren't crumpling as one would expect them to. So ideally to make them match their real life counterparts they're going to need to be restructured.

and you have to do all of this while compromising on accuracy for computational simplicity; otherwise your vehicle won't run in real time. There's far too much for me to explain in a simple post but you must be aware that yeah, I'd be asking a couple of grand if you asked me to "jbeam" something for money. To be fair though, I'd personally happily do it in exchange for models to work on. Well I have. Someone was nice enough to lend me a saab model. I can list all the difficulties I'm encountering and tell you that $100 won't even begin to cover it but that's why you tend to find people doing things they want to for free and releasing them for free for themselves, not for you.

By the way, totally looking for a 90's era Subaru Legacy model to use.

 

Hati, just use the mesh from Forza, and place it on the D15 node/beam. No one here really cares.

 

Yep, that's why all the Russian mods are extremely accurate

 

I don't quite understand why everyone is going crazy. I reposted because I have people saying they are interested. And not for $50 or $500 or even $5000. I am after people who are going to make cars anyway. I am just saying I will give you a motivation boost. THE END. If you are going to make a car great. Why not tell me about what you have planned and you get to make your car and get some "motivation". I have people saying for $5 they would continue on the car and let me have first grab at it for testing or exclusive use before they release it. There are also people saying they would set up dead lines, if they meet them then they get some compensation, if they miss them then they get nothing.

For what ever reason there are a few of you going crazy saying no one will do this. Well you are wrong, you at not doing anything in this thread but getting pissed. Why do you even post? I...I just don't understand what you are adding to the topic by squawking about how no one will ever do this.

You add nothing. As stated before I do have a few catches which I am perusing. So why not add something of use or... I don't know maybe... ignore this thread.



On second note. I do get a certain amount of joy from getting you all rial up.